> On Mar 9, 2019, at 1:16 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 02:44, Chris Lambertus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for your work on this, Sebb. I need to go through the threads and 
>> make sure all the ’t’s are dotted and all the ‘i’s crossed, but then I’ll 
>> start the work to decom that OU.
> 
> It might be sensible to start by dropping one or two ou=pmc groups
> (apart from TAC and security) and see if anything breaks or changes.
> 
> Maybe then empty the OU and leave it a little while before removing it 
> entirely?
> A missing OU may be handle differently from an empty one (if it can be empty).


I agree. I will follow up on the tac and security groups as well.

-Chris







> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> If things do break, it's presumably possible to temporarily recreate
> the missing items whilst things are fixed.
> 
>> -Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2019, at 3:28 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whimsy no longer references LDAP ou=pmc groups  (*)
>>> 
>>> I emailed the TAC chair (Gavin) about the TAC discrepancies, but I've
>>> not heard what the final resolution is.
>>> 
>>> S.
>>> (*) except in the script that does basic checks of (asf|pit)-authorization
>>> Those files still use ou=pmc for TAC and Security, so the script has
>>> to allow for it.
>>> Removal will not affect the script.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 23:11, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Turned out to be not too hard to recreate public_ldap_committees.json
>>>> from ou=projects with some help from committee-info.txt.
>>>> The public_ldap_groups.json file can also be created with some data
>>>> from ou=groups to supply the non-PMC groups.
>>>> 
>>>> This should allow external projects to continue working mostly correctly.
>>>> However the JSON files cannot be used to determine membership of
>>>> ou=pmc or ou=groups.
>>>> This has long been the case for the guinea pigs.
>>>> 
>>>> The updated scripts should continue to work even when projects are
>>>> deleted from ou=pmc and ou=groups.
>>>> 
>>>> However the rest of the Whimsy code has yet to be updated; that is
>>>> looking much more complicated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 15:48, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's looking to be quite complicated to maintain compatibility.
>>>>> I think this is important because external projects may rely on the
>>>>> generated JSON data files, and it may not be possible to fix all the
>>>>> projects in time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The change will affect two of the JSON files:
>>>>> public_ldap_groups.json
>>>>> public_ldap_committees.json
>>>>> 
>>>>> In both the above cases, the guineapig projects are added to the output.
>>>>> This was done to maintain compatibility for external projects.
>>>>> In theory all projects now become guineapigs.
>>>>> However the ou=projects list includes lots of podlings as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One way to maintain compatibility would be to make all the existing
>>>>> projects in groups/committees into guineapigs.
>>>>> A bit messy, but it might work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Longer term, external projects need to stop using ldap_committees, and
>>>>> only use ldap_groups for whatever is left (e.g. member, committers)
>>>>> This involves fixing phonebook and projects.a.o; there are probably 
>>>>> others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cutover date of Feb 9th might be somewhat optimistic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we need to find out if there are any other projects using the
>>>>> 2 above-mentioned Whimsy JSON files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 13:15, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 11:36, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note mixed private and public lists
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 09:37, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 03:54, Chris Lambertus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sam, Whimsy Dev,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Some time ago we migrated projects to use the ou=groups,ou=project 
>>>>>>>>> format with owner and member attributes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The time has come to delete the legacy CNs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It might make sense to fix Whimsy ASAP and see if that causes any 
>>>>>>>> grief.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have started looking at Whimsy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It needs a bit of care as the Groups/Project code is closely related,
>>>>>>> and we need to keep the Groups for members and committers etc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are some other entries only in ou=groups:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> apsite concom infra podlings
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think infra and podlings are not used and could be deleted?
>>>>>>> (podlings is empty anyway)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> apsite probably ought to be in a different OU -- if it is to be kept
>>>>>>> It gives write access to /websites/production/www; maybe an existing
>>>>>>> group (member?) would do
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not sure about concom - maybe it should be ou=project?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> INFRA-17782 - create concom ou=project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> S.
>> 

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