Hi Craig,

A top post sorry.

(1) I would adjust the positioning of the form fields in the ODT to the left.

(2) My Acrobat settings already have a scan of my signature that I use for 
government forms.

I thought that by eliminating the scan and sign the idea was to make it easier 
on both the signer and the Secretary’s processing.

Acrobat has both an E-Sign tool and an advanced “new” Request E-Signatures. The 
instructions should make clear that an “E-Sign” tool is what you mean.

Does Whimsy process detached signatures? Is that too much to expect given how 
generally illiterate younger people are about email.

Best,
Dave

> On Sep 19, 2026, at 4:20 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2026, at 15:35, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 19 Sept 2026 at 23:06, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm planning on making  two changes to the ICLA form.
>>> 
>>> 1. Change "Please complete and sign this Agreement, and then email a pdf 
>>> copy
>>> to [email protected] only (do not copy any other persons or lists).
>>> Read this document carefully before signing and keep a copy for your 
>>> records"
>>> 
>>> to "Please use a pdf form filler, attach your signature, and then email the 
>>> completed form
>> 
>> It's not clear to me what 'attach your signature' means.
>> Does that refer to a separate digital signature, or can people insert
>> an image of their signature?
> 
> Would "add your signature" be better?
> 
> We do not want people to print the document, just fill the form and add a 
> signature.
> I'm trying to condense the instructions from 
> https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#submitting: 
> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#submitting:>
> "When submitting by email, please fill in the form with a PDF form filler, 
> then save and attach the PDF file to an email addressed to 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>."
> 
> More details here: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#printer 
> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#printer>
> "ICLA, CCLA, SGA, and Member license documents are PDF forms with entry form 
> fields. There is also space for a signature which must not be typed. Using a 
> PDF form filler will allow the submitter to fill and sign the forms without 
> printing them. Many browsers can now fill PDF forms directly, otherwise you 
> will need to use a different tool. The precise steps needed depend on the 
> operating system and tools used by the submitter."
> 
> If you have a suggestion how to reword it, I'm open. Would "add your 
> signature" be better?
> Attach your signature seems to be a pretty generic phrase for 
> click on the "Draw" button
> use the Tools-Annotate-Signature function to create a signature
> use the Edit function and choose Fill & Sign
> 
> Craig
> 
>> 
>>> to [email protected] only (do not copy any other persons or lists).
>>> Read this document carefully before signing and keep the form for your 
>>> records".
>>> 
>>> This will help people who read the document and then know what we expect.
>>> 
>>> 2. The form now has the entry fields defined as Courier, Regular, 9. Since 
>>> Courier is not a standard font, each form filler decides what the closest 
>>> available font is, and some are bizarre.
>>> 
>>> I propose to change this to Courier New, Regular, 9. I believe this is a 
>>> standard font that will not require anything from the browser, and will 
>>> result in the form fields looking like the rest of the document.
>>> 
>>> I've attached the proposed form in both odt and pdf formats.
>>> 
>>> Feedback welcome.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
> 
> Craig L Russell
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

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