Hi Dave, > On Sep 20, 2026, at 08:21, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Craig, > > A top post sorry. 'sokay > > (1) I would adjust the positioning of the form fields in the ODT to the left.
Not sure what you mean, The form fields are already just a quarter inch to the right of the field that describes them. > > (2) My Acrobat settings already have a scan of my signature that I use for > government forms. > > I thought that by eliminating the scan and sign the idea was to make it > easier on both the signer and the Secretary’s processing. Yes, both. I still remember sitting at dinner in China and one of the younger people described how to fill the form without encountering a printer or scanner. Ezpz. > > Acrobat has both an E-Sign tool and an advanced “new” Request E-Signatures. > The instructions should make clear that an “E-Sign” tool is what you mean. Have you read the detailed instructions at https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#printerWe tried to make it as specific as possible. What would you suggest here instead of this? > First, install a PDF tool such as Adobe Acrobat. These instructions may > differ somewhat if you are not using Adobe Acrobat. For the signature, use > the Edit function and choose Fill & Sign to attach a signature. > > Does Whimsy process detached signatures? Is that too much to expect given how > generally illiterate younger people are about email. Yes. The instructions are also pretty detailed about how to create a digital .asc file, although I believe that just attaching an image of your signature is easier than: save the icla.pdf create icla.pdf.asc using your favorite GPG tool attach both icla.pdf and icla.pdf.asc to email to secretary. Good feedback, Craig > > Best, > Dave > >> On Sep 19, 2026, at 4:20 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 19, 2026, at 15:35, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 19 Sept 2026 at 23:06, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm planning on making two changes to the ICLA form. >>>> >>>> 1. Change "Please complete and sign this Agreement, and then email a pdf >>>> copy >>>> to [email protected] only (do not copy any other persons or lists). >>>> Read this document carefully before signing and keep a copy for your >>>> records" >>>> >>>> to "Please use a pdf form filler, attach your signature, and then email >>>> the completed form >>> >>> It's not clear to me what 'attach your signature' means. >>> Does that refer to a separate digital signature, or can people insert >>> an image of their signature? >> >> Would "add your signature" be better? >> >> We do not want people to print the document, just fill the form and add a >> signature. >> I'm trying to condense the instructions from >> https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#submitting: >> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#submitting:> >> "When submitting by email, please fill in the form with a PDF form filler, >> then save and attach the PDF file to an email addressed to >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]>." >> >> More details here: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#printer >> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#printer> >> "ICLA, CCLA, SGA, and Member license documents are PDF forms with entry form >> fields. There is also space for a signature which must not be typed. Using a >> PDF form filler will allow the submitter to fill and sign the forms without >> printing them. Many browsers can now fill PDF forms directly, otherwise you >> will need to use a different tool. The precise steps needed depend on the >> operating system and tools used by the submitter." >> >> If you have a suggestion how to reword it, I'm open. Would "add your >> signature" be better? >> Attach your signature seems to be a pretty generic phrase for >> click on the "Draw" button >> use the Tools-Annotate-Signature function to create a signature >> use the Edit function and choose Fill & Sign >> >> Craig >> >>> >>>> to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> only (do not copy >>>> any other persons or lists). >>>> Read this document carefully before signing and keep the form for your >>>> records". >>>> >>>> This will help people who read the document and then know what we expect. >>>> >>>> 2. The form now has the entry fields defined as Courier, Regular, 9. Since >>>> Courier is not a standard font, each form filler decides what the closest >>>> available font is, and some are bizarre. >>>> >>>> I propose to change this to Courier New, Regular, 9. I believe this is a >>>> standard font that will not require anything from the browser, and will >>>> result in the form fields looking like the rest of the document. >>>> >>>> I've attached the proposed form in both odt and pdf formats. >>>> >>>> Feedback welcome. >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> >>>> Craig L Russell >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >> Craig L Russell >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> Craig L Russell [email protected]
