Wow.  Not acceptable...sorry about that.

Anyways, Wicket core developers are on this list, no? What is the next step toward blessing TerracottaPageStore? I suggest that before we bother Wicket, we pass it by Terracotta folks to make sure it is going to be the best foot fwd for both technologies. I was listening on this thread, but haven't yet looked to see if the collections and locking structures will perform well and/or could be optimized for us. Shall I do that quick scan now?

--Ari

On Jul 9, 2008, at 4:33 AM, Stefan Fußenegger wrote:


Hi Ari,

It probably depends on whether TerracottaPageStore makes it into Wicket or
not. So we need some core developers to comment on that.

If TerracottaPageStore finds its way into TC, I'd sign that contributor agreement (btw: I already wanted to contribute my hibernate-search, but
haven't heard anything from the TC folks for weeks now.)

Regards
Stefan



Ari Zilka wrote:

To get this into the terracotta forge we just need the author to sign a contributor agreement. Then we will review the code, check it in, and all
is good.

You can also get write access to the terracotta forge svn if you plan to
maintain the module.

Kewl kewl. I am excited to get the contribution. Let me know how you guys
wish to proceed!

--Ari

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Ok, cool,

Initial testing shows that no extra synchronisation is required. It works
:)

However I had to modify the getHttpSession method, the test to make sure
the
sessionid is the same, that doesn't work clustered as the session id
contains jvm route (ie machine identifier) so changes from machine to
machine. The first part of the id is the same (the part before the dot)
so
we could either implement some text splitting or remove it completely.

I also forgot about the other stuff that gets stored in httpsession, ie
the
actual session object, so my simple 4 class config didnt work. I just copied the original wicket one into mine, there are some extra classes
that
are now distributed that dont need to be, but this was the quickest way to get it working. IClusterable is used everywhere so will be pain if we
want
to sort that out.

After more testing i will post back a merged version of code, but all is
looking good,

cheers,

Richard



Stefan Fußenegger wrote:

As I said, it's a matter of taste and not worth a discussion. I think I
can handle it, if you want to stick with your solution ;)

With "complain" I meant: "All changes to clustered objects must happen within the context of a Terracotta transaction. This means that a thread
must acquire a clustered lock prior to modifying the state of any
clustered objects. If a thread attempts to modify a clustered object
outside the context of a terracotta transaction, a runtime exception will
be thrown." (
http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Concept+and+Architecture+Guide#ConceptandArchitectureGuide-Transactions
Terracotta Product Documentation ). PageMapStore is clustered after being stored in the session. Therefore, modifications to PageMapStore._pageMaps
(as in getPageMap(String)) will cause an exception outside of a
transaction. I can't see where the transaction starts, but testing this
in
a clustered environment will quickly give an answer whether we need
further synchronization or not (maybe you already did this, while I only
tested without actually using TC clustering). I added the further
synchronization if needed

btw: getPageStore(...) should probably be renamed as it in fact returns a PageMapStore, not a PageStore, same for getPageMap(...) that returns a
PageStore.

i think a nice side effect of this new implementation is that wicket
components need not be IClusterable anymore. we always test our app in "pure wicket mode" and test it clustered prior to deployment. we always
find some objects that are Serializable but not IClusterable, hence
causing exceptions with TC. Using serialization of pages, both modes
would
need Serializable objects only.

regards
stefan

http://www.nabble.com/file/p18335661/OurTerracottaPageStore.java
OurTerracottaPageStore.java




richardwilko wrote:

Looks good,


Stefan Fußenegger wrote:

- I wouldn't use an extra class just to wrap a HashMap of PageStore. I would just put them into the plain session. But finally, this is just a
matter of taste. I even think that this class lacks proper
synchronization. Doesn't Terracotta complain about modifying an
instance
outside of a transaction??


I disagree, I think it makes the code cleaner as all the stuff to do
with
creating PageStores (and debug information) is encapsulated in the
class.
I don't think that the synchronisation is an issue, im not sure what you mean about terracotta complaining, if Ari is still watching this thread
then he can probably answer the question.

It is a pain that you cant get the last element of the list, but your solution works well, I tweaked it slightly to remove a not needed if statement (you dont need to check the page id, the subset stuff takes
care of it).

I'm gonna put this slightly modified class through our test environment here where i work and throw loads of simulated users at it to see how it
works.

I have removed the wicket module from my terracotta config as this
currently forces the use of httpsessionstore. Also with our solution we
only need to instrument 4 classes so i'm not using the IClusterable
thing
in the config, i'm just declaring the classes manually.
I would be good to find out how we go about modifying the wicket tim (probably another question for Ari there). I downloaded the terracotta
source but couldn't get it to build.

Richard









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