Sorry for the rant...

The transition from 1.4 to 1.5 was awful (full of such minor breaking
changes), but not so afterwards, I know I'm overreacting. Probably it's
because it happened (a colleague complaining about all the compiling errors
when upgrading from 1.4) last week :/

And well... it's somewhat inevitable to avoid compiling errors when
evolving a framework that is strongly type-safe (which is a great plus).

Sorry again.

But I still like my enums, please keep the interfaces :)






On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org>wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, tetsuo <ronald.tet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Guillaume, you're right.
> >
> > Martin, sorry for the misunderstanding.
> >
> > Enums can't extend any classes besides Enum. But can implement
> interfaces.
> >
>
> Thanks! Now it is clear to me.
>
>
> >
> > I use Enums in lots of places, not as enums, but as singletons, because
> > they won't be serialized, won't carry unintended references, and use
> > virtually no memory in pages. Converters, Renderers, Validators, Models
> > (less so of the former, since it almost always needs state). If IBehavior
> > still existed, and didn't have so many methods, I'd use enums to
> implement
> > some of them, too.
> >
> > But my main complaint is not specific to this issue, however. I'm more
> > concerned about frequent breaking API changes with no practical
> advantage.
> > Javascript/JavaScript, addComponent/add(Component) and the like. I'm at
> the
> > point that I'm starting to feel unconfortable recommending Wicket to
> > people, because I know an year from now they will complain that they
> > upgraded a library and a thousand compiling errors appeared. 98% of them
> > are very simple errors, but it's a daunting task neverthless.
> >
> >
> Options:
> 1) Wicket devs stop developing Wicket so the API stays stable forever
> 2) application developers don't upgrade to next major version of Wicket
> 3) find the golden middle.
>
> I think we all agree that 3) is the best for all and that we (Wicket devs)
> try to follow it:
>
> - we use SemVer to make it easier for application developers to know when
> to expect API breaks and when to not expect such
> - we discuss most of the API breaks for major versions here in dev@.
>   If there are issues identified on time we react! Even this change has
> been discussed before being made
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > As Martijn explained all that is needed is:
> > > - s/implements/extends/
> > > - remove the leading 'I' from IChoiceRenderer
> > >
> > > If the interface is preserved then all custom impls will have to add
> > > implementation of the new method introduced with WICKET-663. This IMO
> > will
> > > lead to more work for the application developers.
> > >
> > > As I said: I am not against restoring the interface, just don't see its
> > > value.
> > >
> > > Martin Grigorov
> > > Wicket Training and Consulting
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Guillaume Smet <
> > guillaume.s...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:33 PM, tetsuo <ronald.tet...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Because... it's an unnecessary breaking change?
> > > >
> > > > From what I understand of your previous post, you implements some of
> > > > your converters in Enums, which you can do because IChoiceRenderer is
> > > > currently an interface. And you won't be able to do it if it's a
> > > > class.
> > > >
> > > > Am I right?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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