I think that makes sense in the current scope as it does not include governance in production environment. I'm thinking ahead to when that is integrated, in which case "retiring" needs to be an explicit action. Since, there's no direct equivalent in v1, we'll be free to design that behavior at that stage.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > > From a user's perspective an application goes into retirement at the end > of the lifecycle. > > What we need to very, is, whether the current configurable life cycle > stage in AF can handle both pre-production and post-production scenarios in > ALM in general. > > Maybe in this case the word "demote" is not the correct one to use ? > > Thank you, > Shiro > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Sameera Perera <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Shiro, Dimuthu, >> >> I was going through the AF Introduction slides [1] and have a question >> related the Governance user story. >> Slide 17 of the presentation says that life cycle stages are configurable >> through GReg. Is this still valid? Slide 2 does say we may drop features >> along the way. >> >> In case this is still valid, how does "Retiring" a version work? >> With just the standard stages (Dev < Test < Staging < Prod), once a >> version is obsolete, I think the correct step is to undeploy it. Then the >> version is in production state but, inaccessible. Which is fine. >> If we wanted a "Retired" state, it should be applicable to a version in >> Production. However, based on the wireframes, this means "promoting" to the >> "retired" stage. Which feels wrong, semantically. >> So, I think the right approach would be to define Retired state as >> Retired < Development < Testing .... >> If a production version is being retired, the user will demote the >> version all the way down to Retired. >> Does this sound right, to you as well? >> >> [1] http://www.slideshare.net/wso2.org/introducing-the-wso2-app-factory >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Updated the wireframe document - corrected typo - AppFactory overview >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Shiro >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Update: The User stories have been updated with User Registration and >>>> User Profile View/ Edit stories. >>>> >>>> The latest pdf is attached herewith. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Shiro >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If we are arguing about build and repositories page we are arguing >>>>> about a none-existence case. The attached wireframes shows as if there is >>>>> a >>>>> build for each and every version - which is not the case. We can build >>>>> only >>>>> the ones in development phase. >>>>> >>>>> But if we are unhappy about the buttons being red on all other pages >>>>> we can change it. But IMO I like the red - but it is a very subjective >>>>> matter, so I am open for change. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> dimuthu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Couldn't actually find why it was made red as yet, but, it seems that >>>>>> many people don't quite like it being red, [1]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://www.google.lk/search?q=gmail%20compose%20button%20red >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Senaka. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had a look into multiple themes from gmail. The compose button is >>>>>>> red only in the default light theme, in the coloured and animated themes >>>>>>> the button is mostly grey. Other interfaces have the blue buttons in all >>>>>>> themes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Senaka. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gmail's compose button is red. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we know why? >>>>>>>> Also note that, send button is Blue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> dimuthu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry couldn't keep up with this thread. If there aren't gone to >>>>>>>>>> be that many buttons in red, and if we have other higher priorities >>>>>>>>>> we can >>>>>>>>>> leave this at it. But, I need to point out that a shade of red does >>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>> that sense. For example, if you take a look at Google UIs (Gmail, >>>>>>>>>> Docs, >>>>>>>>>> Search etc), you'll see how much of effort they've put into making >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> look neat and consistent. Colour does play a major role in it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Senaka. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The user stories were updated as follows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Configure resources : Properties - this was changed to add >>>>>>>>>>> the type of property created - i.e. endpoint or registry >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Application development - this was changed to include >>>>>>>>>>> downloading the tooling support for AppFactory. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The wireframes document was updated since the Issues wireframe >>>>>>>>>>> attached was incorrect. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>> Shiro >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I had forgotten about the buttons being disabled / enabled >>>>>>>>>>>> based on permissions - so we will not see all these buttons at >>>>>>>>>>>> once. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Given that we were adviced to keep the red in other areas to >>>>>>>>>>>> indicate primary buttons and that we are in critical path to get >>>>>>>>>>>> the pages >>>>>>>>>>>> ASAP there will be no change. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> Shiro >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Dimuthu Leelarathne < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senaka, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Senaka Fernando < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shiroshica, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any reason for using red coloured buttons in build/governance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UIs? IMHO, that sounds like something went wrong and some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate action >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is needed. Seeing a lot of red coloured buttons in the build UI >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling that a lot of things has gone wrong in the past. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only the build page. But realistically, we will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> hiding all Build and Deploy buttons for Apps that are not in >>>>>>>>>>>>> development. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So will not see many buttons in the end. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This shade of read doesn't give the "something went wrong", at >>>>>>>>>>>>> least to me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> dimuthu >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can this be fixed if it was not done on purpose? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senaka. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached are the latest User Stories and Wireframe designs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for AppFactory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The UI designs have been frozen except for ; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. User Log-in and Profile creation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Resource Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Dashboards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update to User Stories >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update on the wire frames >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Nirmal Fernando < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to upload PDFs instead of ODPs, so that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can view, without downloading ? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached are the working progress artifacts for the UI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes within AppFactory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - User stories >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Wire frames >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any updates to the above will be posted to the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nirmal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer- Platform Technologies Team, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +94715779733 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Senaka Fernando* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>>>>>>>>>>> Architect & Chair of Solution Management Committee >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> *Senaka Fernando* >>>>>>>>>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>>>>>>>>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>>>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>>>>>>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>>>>>>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>>>>>>> Architect & Chair of Solution Management Committee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Samisa... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe >>>>>>>> VP Engineering >>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. >>>>>>>> http://wso2.com >>>>>>>> http://wso2.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Senaka Fernando* >>>>>>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>>>>>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>>>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>>>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Senaka Fernando* >>>>>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>>>>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>>>>> >>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>>> Architect & Chair of Solution Management Committee >>>>> >>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>> >>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>>> >>>> Architect, >>>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shiroshica Kulatilake >>> >>> Architect, >>> WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>> Phone: +94 776523867 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Sameera Perera* >> Senior Manager, API Solutions >> gtalk: [email protected] >> *WSO2, Inc.* <http://wso2.com/> >> lean.enterprise.middleware >> >> >> > > > -- > Shiroshica Kulatilake > > Architect, > WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com/ > Phone: +94 776523867 > -- ------------------------------ *Sameera Perera* Senior Manager, API Solutions gtalk: [email protected] *WSO2, Inc.* <http://wso2.com/> lean.enterprise.middleware
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