+1 to remove this. This is something comes from kernel right? So this is something has to agree with all products.
Are we ok to remove this in a kernel patch release? On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Shiraz Azad <[email protected]> wrote: > Agree with Thilina. At the same time, we should make sure we dont clutter > the UI with explaining notes. In that case, a UI guide will be really > effective. +1 for that. > > Thanks > Shiraz > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Thilina Madumal <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For the 5.4.0 we have to go with the assumption that the current >> Implementation of the UI, self-explain enough. >> With that assumption, we can go ahead and can remove the help links. WDYT? >> >> Making UI self-explain better can be achieved in the 5.5.0 release since >> there is a plan to re-write the UI. >> For that, I suggest implementing something like UI guide (something >> similar to what APIM has done, IMO it is pretty effective) when a user >> starts a fresh pack. >> >> Regards, >> Thilina. >> >> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Shiraz Azad <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> +1. for removing links and making the UI self explained. >>> >>> Shiraz >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Thilina Madumal <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 to remove the links as Johann has suggested. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Thilina. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Johann Nallathamby <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 to remove these links. I think better UX is the solution than >>>>> asking users to read more docs. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Johann. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Samuel Gnaniah <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Our strategy here is to remove these help links and walk through the >>>>>> UI with the dev team to make the UIs and forms easier to configure >>>>>> without >>>>>> requiring additional documentation. This is the stragety we are following >>>>>> for all products. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *Samuel Gnaniah* >>>>>> Lead Technical Writer >>>>>> >>>>>> WSO2 (pvt.) Ltd. >>>>>> Colombo, Sri Lanka >>>>>> (+94) 773131798 <+94%2077%20313%201798> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Sherene Mahanama <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +documentation, +shiraz, +samuel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Sherene Mahanama <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Team, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can use [1] as the base URL as it will always point to the >>>>>>>> latest docs of IS. If we export an html page though, when we update >>>>>>>> the doc >>>>>>>> page with improvements the changes won't get reflected in the help page >>>>>>>> right unless we export again every time we make a change? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] https://docs.wso2.com/identity-server >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Sherene >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Omindu Rathnaweera < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One other option would be to export an html from the doc page and >>>>>>>>> include it in the product. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Johann Nallathamby < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only problem I see is if Internet access is not available from >>>>>>>>>> the client's machine which can access the carbon console, which >>>>>>>>>> could be >>>>>>>>>> the case sometimes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Thilina Madumal < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Currently, in IS Management Console, the context sensitive help >>>>>>>>>>> pages are outdated. See [1]. >>>>>>>>>>> Even though the content is up to date, the content is not >>>>>>>>>>> informative enough IMO. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If we are to update the help-pages, we need to make them up to >>>>>>>>>>> date and informative enough. >>>>>>>>>>> The concern is if we are to do so; >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The effort is significantly high >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, it is kind of writing another set of documentation >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We already have a nice set of documentation for the Product IS. >>>>>>>>>>> Therefore shall we link the already available IS documentation >>>>>>>>>>> to Help Pages of IS Management Console? WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/IDENTITY-446 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Thilina. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> *Thilina Madumal* >>>>>>>>>>> *Software Engineer | **WSO2* >>>>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: *+ <+94%2077%20767%201807>94 774553167* >>>>>>>>>>> Web: <http://goog_716986954>http://wso2.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://wso2.com/signature> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Johann Dilantha Nallathamby* >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lead Solutions Engineer >>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile - *+94777776950* >>>>>>>>>> Blog - *http://nallaa.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>>> <http://nallaa.wordpress.com>* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Omindu Rathnaweera >>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc. >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +94 771 197 211 <+94%2077%20119%207211> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sherene Mahanama >>>>>>>> Technical Writer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WSO2 (pvt.) Ltd. >>>>>>>> Colombo, Sri Lanka >>>>>>>> Mobile: (+94) 777 <%28%2B94%29%20773131798> >>>>>>>> *994805* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sherene Mahanama >>>>>>> Technical Writer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WSO2 (pvt.) Ltd. >>>>>>> Colombo, Sri Lanka >>>>>>> Mobile: (+94) 777 <%28%2B94%29%20773131798> >>>>>>> *994805* >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>> >>>>> *Johann Dilantha Nallathamby* >>>>> Senior Lead Solutions Engineer >>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>> >>>>> Mobile - *+94777776950* >>>>> Blog - *http://nallaa.wordpress.com <http://nallaa.wordpress.com>* >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "WSO2 Documentation Group" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/a/wso2.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Thilina Madumal* >>>> *Software Engineer | **WSO2* >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Mobile: *+ <+94%2077%20767%201807>94 774553167* >>>> Web: <http://goog_716986954>http://wso2.com >>>> >>>> <http://wso2.com/signature> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shiraz Azad >>> Technical Writer >>> WSO2 Inc. >>> >>> Mobile: 0094777062384 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Thilina Madumal* >> *Software Engineer | **WSO2* >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: *+ <+94%2077%20767%201807>94 774553167* >> Web: <http://goog_716986954>http://wso2.com >> >> <http://wso2.com/signature> >> >> > > > -- > Shiraz Azad > Technical Writer > WSO2 Inc. > > Mobile: 0094777062384 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "WSO2 Documentation Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/a/wso2.com/d/optout. > -- Regards, *Darshana Gunawardana*Technical Lead WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com *E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>* *Mobile: +94718566859*Lean . 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