On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:14 AM Allen Wittenauer
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
>         Perfectly valid code written by committers is regularly ignored
> because the rest of the committers are too focused on vendor-driven goals.
> Since those vendor driven goals are the only patches getting in and getting
> reviewed, coworkers get commit and PMC bits at a rate significantly faster
> than non-coworkers.  In the end, only the vendors survive and what was a
> diverse community dies.  [.. and to put an ASF spin on it: it feels
> sanctioned by the ASF board who really doesn’t understand what is happening
> because they just see new faces being added to the rolls, not being told
> that ~90% of these people work for 2-3 companies.  Since no one goes
> emeritus, the numbers/diversity looks more impressive than it really is:
> it’s not unusual for not-coworkers to basically disappear after getting PMC
> or even committer.]
>
>
Succinctly stated.



> > 3) Everyone has a bad day. I totally identify with committership being a
> > sign of "I trust you" to project participants. But everyone has one of
> > those days where you're in a rush either because of work or life. Having
> > even a cursory additional set of eyes on things markedly increases the
> > quality of the overall code base over a long enough time line (at least
> in
> > my experience contributing to open source projects). So for me, the trust
> > is largely "to follow the rules" and "to provide feedback in reviews”.
>
>         Definitely agree here.  I think that’s why I’m favoring Lazy
> Consensus over CTR as well.
>
>
LC is better than RTC when no R (unfortuantely). Agree should be some lag.
Sean's 72hours+ sounds good.

S


> > That said, if I'm going to give CTR another try anywhere I'd rather it
> > be here in Apache Yetus. So please consider my -0 changed to +1.
>
>
>         Thanks Sean!
>
>

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