Great to see the consensus! I think at this point, I'd let Moon's nomination stew for a day or two and then it makes sense to restart the thread with the full board resolution that the community is going to vote upon.
Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote: > Roman, Henry thank you for advices, > Moon thank you for volunteering and preparing the Charter draft [1]. > > Although it was not very clean from the [2] that Charter better be included > in the community vote as well, > I feel very comfortable with current proposal and ask to count my vote > holding for what have being discussed here, as well as nominating Moon as a > Chair. > > Thanks! > > 1. > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Board+resolution+%28DRAFT%29+for+the+graduation > 2. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:42 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Thanks Roman for thoughtful guidance. >> >> If it is not a big problem and PPMC agrees, I'd like to nominate myself. >> >> About the duty of Chair, in addition to Roman's summary, I've read some >> documents [1] [2] and they're really helpful to understand what it is. >> >> Regarding Chair selection policy, >> Chair of a project can be changed at anytime when a PMC wishes [3]. With >> the understanding of this flexibility of changing Chair, i believe PMC will >> always try to find a right person for the best community interest. And I >> wish we continue to grow and get more experience as a TLP and see what is >> the best policy for us. >> >> Thanks, >> moon >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair >> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc >> [3] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> >> wrote: >> >> > This looks good to me. Still I think you need to decide on a Chair. >> > You will definitely have to do that before the vote goes to IPMC >> > and it is a good practice for community to vote on a complete >> > resolution rather than a part of it. >> > >> > A few things that you probably know already, but I find useful >> > to re-iterate: >> > 1. a Chair is by and large a just a guy on the hook to be >> communicating >> > with the board about the status of the project. Sort of like mentors, >> > who >> > may be clueless about your technology were helping you get the gist >> > of the Apache Way. >> > >> > 2. a good idea is for the community to consider a rotating chair >> > policy where every X months a question of -- who would volunteer >> > to be a new chair -- gets asked. Doesn't mean that the current >> > chair can't self-nominate and continue to server, of course -- it just >> > provides a nice forcing function for that discussion to come up. E.g.: >> > http://markmail.org/thread/4nadptmwrb3nqqd4 >> > >> > Other than that -- perhaps we can start with nominations >> (self-nominations >> > are always encouraged) and if there's more than one candidate we can >> > do a vote. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Roman. >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:16 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > Hi >> > > >> > > Thanks Henry and Roman for the advice. >> > > >> > > I have created a draft >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Board+resolution+%28DRAFT%29+for+the+graduation >> > . >> > > Please take a look. >> > > >> > > In the draft, >> > > >> > > Project description and scope follows description in incubation status >> > page >> > > [1]. >> > > Includes all Committers listed in incubation status page [2] as TLP's >> PMC >> > > members. >> > > Choosing the chair need to be done. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > moon >> > > >> > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html#Description >> > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html#Project+info >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:23 AM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Henry Saputra < >> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Moon, >> > >> > >> > >> > Actually we should add proposed board resolution [1] in the Vote >> > thread >> > >> > which include choosing the chair. >> > >> > >> > >> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >> > >> >> > >> That's a really good advice! Part of the graduation process is the >> > >> formation >> > >> and final approval of the TLP's PMC and the Chair. That should be part >> > >> of what the community votes on in my opinion. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Roman. >> > >> >> > >>
