On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the advices. > > Now, I'm closing this vote (cancel) and start a new vote with board > resolution, soon. > > Thanks, > moon > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:58 AM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > wrote: > >> Great to see the consensus! I think at this point, I'd let Moon's >> nomination stew for a day or two and then it makes sense to >> restart the thread with the full board resolution that the community >> is going to vote upon. >> >> Thanks, >> Roman. >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > Roman, Henry thank you for advices, >> > Moon thank you for volunteering and preparing the Charter draft [1]. >> > >> > Although it was not very clean from the [2] that Charter better be >> included >> > in the community vote as well, >> > I feel very comfortable with current proposal and ask to count my vote >> > holding for what have being discussed here, as well as nominating Moon >> as a >> > Chair. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > 1. >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Board+resolution+%28DRAFT%29+for+the+graduation >> > 2. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:42 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks Roman for thoughtful guidance. >> >> >> >> If it is not a big problem and PPMC agrees, I'd like to nominate >> myself. >> >> >> >> About the duty of Chair, in addition to Roman's summary, I've read some >> >> documents [1] [2] and they're really helpful to understand what it is. >> >> >> >> Regarding Chair selection policy, >> >> Chair of a project can be changed at anytime when a PMC wishes [3]. >> With >> >> the understanding of this flexibility of changing Chair, i believe PMC >> will >> >> always try to find a right person for the best community interest. And >> I >> >> wish we continue to grow and get more experience as a TLP and see what >> is >> >> the best policy for us. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> moon >> >> >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair >> >> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc >> >> [3] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > This looks good to me. Still I think you need to decide on a Chair. >> >> > You will definitely have to do that before the vote goes to IPMC >> >> > and it is a good practice for community to vote on a complete >> >> > resolution rather than a part of it. >> >> > >> >> > A few things that you probably know already, but I find useful >> >> > to re-iterate: >> >> > 1. a Chair is by and large a just a guy on the hook to be >> >> communicating >> >> > with the board about the status of the project. Sort of like >> mentors, >> >> > who >> >> > may be clueless about your technology were helping you get the >> gist >> >> > of the Apache Way. >> >> > >> >> > 2. a good idea is for the community to consider a rotating chair >> >> > policy where every X months a question of -- who would volunteer >> >> > to be a new chair -- gets asked. Doesn't mean that the current >> >> > chair can't self-nominate and continue to server, of course -- it >> just >> >> > provides a nice forcing function for that discussion to come up. >> E.g.: >> >> > http://markmail.org/thread/4nadptmwrb3nqqd4 >> >> > >> >> > Other than that -- perhaps we can start with nominations >> >> (self-nominations >> >> > are always encouraged) and if there's more than one candidate we can >> >> > do a vote. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Roman. >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:16 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > > Hi >> >> > > >> >> > > Thanks Henry and Roman for the advice. >> >> > > >> >> > > I have created a draft >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Board+resolution+%28DRAFT%29+for+the+graduation >> >> > . >> >> > > Please take a look. >> >> > > >> >> > > In the draft, >> >> > > >> >> > > Project description and scope follows description in incubation >> status >> >> > page >> >> > > [1]. >> >> > > Includes all Committers listed in incubation status page [2] as >> TLP's >> >> PMC >> >> > > members. >> >> > > Choosing the chair need to be done. >> >> > > >> >> > > Thanks, >> >> > > moon >> >> > > >> >> > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html#Description >> >> > > [2] >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html#Project+info >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:23 AM Roman Shaposhnik < >> ro...@shaposhnik.org> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Henry Saputra < >> >> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> >> > >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Moon, >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Actually we should add proposed board resolution [1] in the Vote >> >> > thread >> >> > >> > which include choosing the chair. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >> >> > >> >> >> > >> That's a really good advice! Part of the graduation process is the >> >> > >> formation >> >> > >> and final approval of the TLP's PMC and the Chair. That should be >> part >> >> > >> of what the community votes on in my opinion. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Thanks, >> >> > >> Roman. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >
