With the use of a Docker container (to prevent port collisions) and a stack of cleanups to test code, I've made some progress towards reliable test runs in our environment. (https://github.com/mkedwards/zookeeper/commits/rollup-3.5, if you're curious.) The list below consists of the "top 40" slowest individual tests. Note that several appear multiple times, because of the inclusion of classes containing slow tests in NioNettySuiteTest and NettyNettySuiteTest.
I'm somewhat hesitant to undertake further overhauls of the test suite, because I've already found myself having to make the kinds of changes that tend to be uphill battles, code-review-wise -- especially coming from an outsider. https://github.com/mkedwards/zookeeper/commit/e02eb705c6550f51ebb860a474ce711ec68c7a24 is an example. If a Zookeeper committer is interested in working with me on this, maybe email me? Otherwise, I'll try to keep this branch rebased regularly, and hammer on the remaining flaky tests to see what I can learn. $ grep ' Ran ' build.log | sort -n -t '[' -r -k 4 | head -40 [junit] [39343@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [68.657] org.apache.zookeeper.test.ReconfigTest:testPortChangeToBlockedPortLeader ... OK [junit] [44264@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [68.607] org.apache.zookeeper.test.ReconfigTest:testPortChangeToBlockedPortFollower ... OK [junit] [59151@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [67.535] org.apache.zookeeper.test.ReconfigTest:testPortChangeToBlockedPortLeader ... 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OK [junit] [34470@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [52.229] org.apache.zookeeper.test.FollowerResyncConcurrencyTest:testResyncByTxnlogThenDiffAfterFollowerCrashes ... OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [49.956] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testHostnameVerificationWithInvalidIPAddress ... OK [junit] [18406@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [48.65] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMainTest:testFailedTxnAsPartOfQuorumLoss ... OK [junit] [34470@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [48.582] org.apache.zookeeper.test.FollowerResyncConcurrencyTest:testResyncBySnapThenDiffAfterFollowerCrashes ... OK [junit] [18406@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [47.115] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMainTest:testEarlyLeaderAbandonment ... OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [46.184] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testCipherSuites ... OK [junit] [28926@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [45.764] org.apache.zookeeper.test.AsyncHammerTest:testHammer ... 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OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [39.114] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testQuorumSSL ... OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [38.894] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testOCSP ... OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [37.875] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testHostnameVerificationWithInvalidIpAddressAndInvalidHostname ... OK [junit] [19354@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [37.469] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumSSLTest:testProtocolVersion ... OK [junit] [24817@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [36.251] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.ReconfigRecoveryTest:testCurrentObserverIsParticipantInNewConfig ... OK [junit] [28926@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [34.052] org.apache.zookeeper.test.AsyncHammerTest:testObserversHammer ... OK [junit] [39059@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [32.643] org.apache.zookeeper.test.AsyncHammerTest:testObserversHammer ... OK [junit] [50794@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [32.521] org.apache.zookeeper.test.QuorumZxidSyncTest:testLateLogs ... OK [junit] [18406@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [30.15] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMainTest:testBadPeerAddressInQuorum ... OK [junit] [26094@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [30.067] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.StandaloneDisabledTest:startObserver ... OK [junit] [18406@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [29.979] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMainTest:testQuorumPeerExitTime ... OK [junit] [22552@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [29.419] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.ReconfigFailureCasesTest:testObserverToParticipantConversionFails ... OK [junit] [9698@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [28.838] org.apache.zookeeper.server.ZxidRolloverTest:testRolloverThenRestart ... OK [junit] [18406@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [28.075] org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMainTest:testInconsistentDueToNewLeaderOrder ... OK [junit] [44264@1f20a9d731ad] Ran [27.39] org.apache.zookeeper.test.ReconfigTest:testRemoveAddTwo ... OK On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 7:41 AM Michael K. Edwards <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks! I assigned 2778 to myself. > > ZOOKEEPER-2778: A port to the master branch of the current state of > my patch is in https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/719. Be aware > that there are a couple of touches to the code needed in 3.5 that > aren't needed in master: > https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/707/files#diff-7a209d890686bcba351d758b64b22a7dR413 > and > https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/707/files#diff-b2dd09c58f745da275fee3c6d8681503R974 > (both of these are obviated by cleanups that have taken place on > master). > > ZOOKEEPER-1636: By "clean" I just mean "in isolation"; previously I > had stacked this patch in a branch on top of the 2778 work. > > ZOOKEEPER-1818: PR #714 is a port of Fangmin's patch to 3.5 (which > split off before the refactor from termCondition to getVoteTracker). > PR #718 is Fangmin's patch unchanged, just cherry-picked onto current > master and poked until we got a green Jenkins build. > > "Address already in use": > https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-github-pr-build/2708/consoleText > (search for BindException). You generally have to look at the raw > consoleText in order to find these. I don't see any way of getting at > the untruncated text for > https://builds.apache.org/job/ZooKeeper_branch35_jdk8/1195/testReport/junit/org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum/StandaloneDisabledTest/startSingleServerTest/ > , but I suspect there's a similar BindException hidden inside > "...[truncated 395348 chars]..." > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:50 AM Andor Molnar <an...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > I added you to the contributors list in Jira, now you can assign tickets to > > yourself. > > > > 3.5 > > ~~~ > > ZOOKEEPER-2778 - I already accepted the patch, but I’d like to kindly ask > > you to create a separate pull request for the master branch which I can > > backport to 3.5 after committing it. This will help us follow the standard > > procedure of making changes. > > > > ZOOKEEPER-1636 - Thanks for picking it up, I’ll review your patch shortly. > > Btw I’m not sure what do you mean by “clean” pull request. > > > > ZOOKEEPER-1818 - This issue is already taken care by Fangmin (PR #703), why > > have you created the new PR? > > > > Flakies > > ~~~~~~~ > > We’re already aware of the downside of PortAssignment class, but haven’t > > really seen too many "Address already in use” problems in tests. (Except in > > Java 11 builds, but those are unrelated) Would you please provide some > > evidence about your findings with links to builds that you’re talking about > > and specific error messages? > > > > Thanks, > > Andor > > > > > > > > > > > On 2018. Nov 22., at 23:20, Michael K. Edwards <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > For what it's worth, builds 2732 and 2733 ran concurrently on H19, and > > > both failed for what I think are resource-conflict reasons. It would > > > probably help to modify the PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-github-pr-build queue > > > so that it doesn't attempt concurrent builds on the same > > > (uncontainerized) host. > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 1:44 PM Michael K. Edwards > > > <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Thanks for the guidance. Feel free to assign ZOOKEEPER-2778 to me (I > > >> don't seem to be able to do it myself). I've updated that pull > > >> request against 3.5 to address all reviewer comments. When it looks > > >> ready to land, I'll port it to master as well. > > >> > > >> I have updated ZOOKEEPER-1636 and ZOOKEEPER-1818 with clean pull > > >> requests based on Thawan's and Fangmin's patches. I'll poke at them > > >> until they build green, and try to handle anything reviewers bring up. > > >> > > >> With regard to flaky tests: a fair fraction of spurious test failures > > >> appear to result from failure to bind a dynamically-assigned > > >> client/election/quorum port. The prevailing hypothesis is that > > >> something else, running concurrently on the machine, is binding the > > >> port in between the check in PortAssignment (which binds it, to verify > > >> that it's not otherwise in use, and then closes that socket to free it > > >> again) and the subsequent use as a service port. If that's the case, > > >> then we could eliminate this class of test failures by running the > > >> tests inside a container (with a dedicated network namespace). Any > > >> failures of this kind that persist in a containerized test setup are > > >> the test fighting itself, not fighting unrelated concurrent processes. > > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 8:23 AM Andor Molnar <an...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi Michael! > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for the great help to get 3.5 out of the door. We're getting > > >>> closer with each commit. > > >>> > > >>> You asked a lot of questions in your email, which I'm trying to answer, > > >>> but I believe the best approach is to deal with one problem at a time. > > >>> Especially in email communication is not ideal to mix different topics, > > >>> because it makes things hard to follow. > > >>> > > >>> I focus on 3.5 release in this thread according to the subject. There's > > >>> another thread btw I usually update every so often, but your list is > > >>> pretty much accurate too. I use the following query for 3.5 blockers: > > >>> > > >>> project = ZooKeeper AND resolution = Unresolved AND fixVersion = 3.5.5 > > >>> AND priority in (blocker, critical) ORDER BY priority DESC, key ASC > > >>> > > >>> ZOOKEEPER-1818 - Fangmin is working on it and patch is available on > > >>> github. > > >>> ZOOKEEPER-2778 - You're working on it, patch is available. You should > > >>> assign the Jira to yourself to avoid somebody else picking it up. > > >>> ZOOKEEPER-1636 - An ancient C issue which has patch available in Jira. > > >>> I'm planning to rebase it on master, but didn't have a chance yet. > > >>> > > >>> All of the others are Maven/Doc related which Tamas and Norbert are > > >>> working on. > > >>> > > >>> Flaky tests are related, but we don't tackle it as a blocker issue. > > >>> Here's the umbrella Jira that I've created to track the progress: > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-3170 > > >>> > > >>> Feel free to pick up any of the open ones or create new ones if you > > >>> think it's necessary. It's generally better to open individual Jiras > > >>> for every issue you're working on and discuss the details in it. You > > >>> can open an email thread too, if you feel convenient, but Jira is > > >>> preferred. > > >>> > > >>> Preferred workflow is Open Jira -> GitHub PR -> Commit to master -> > > >>> Backport to 3.5/3.4 if necessary -> Close Jira. > > >>> > > >>> Thank you for your contribution again! > > >>> > > >>> Andor > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 12:51 PM Michael K. Edwards > > >>> <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I think it's mostly a problem in CI, where other processes on the same > > >>>> machine may compete for the port range, producing spurious Jenkins > > >>>> failures. The only failures I'm seeing locally are unrelated SSL > > >>>> issues. > > >>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 3:45 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Il giorno gio 22 nov 2018 alle ore 12:44 Michael K. Edwards > > >>>>> <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I'm glad to be able to help. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> It appears as though some of the "flaky tests" result from another > > >>>>>> process stealing a server port between the time that it is assigned > > >>>>>> (in org.apache.zookeeper.PortAssignment.unique()) and the time that > > >>>>>> it > > >>>>>> is bound. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You can try running tests using a single thread, this will "mitigate" > > >>>>> the problem a bit > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Enrico > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This happened, for example, in > > >>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-github-pr-build/2708/; > > >>>>>> looking in the console text, I found: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] 2018-11-22 00:18:30,336 [myid:] - INFO > > >>>>>> [QuorumPeerListener:QuorumCnxManager$Listener@884] - My election bind > > >>>>>> port: localhost/127.0.0.1:19459 > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] 2018-11-22 00:18:30,337 [myid:] - INFO > > >>>>>> [QuorumPeer[myid=1](plain=/127.0.0.1:19457)(secure=disabled):NettyServerCnxnFactory@493] > > >>>>>> - binding to port localhost/127.0.0.1:19466 > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] 2018-11-22 00:18:30,337 [myid:] - ERROR > > >>>>>> [QuorumPeer[myid=1](plain=/127.0.0.1:19457)(secure=disabled):NettyServerCnxnFactory@497] > > >>>>>> - Error while reconfiguring > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] org.jboss.netty.channel.ChannelException: > > >>>>>> Failed to bind to: localhost/127.0.0.1:19466 > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.bootstrap.ServerBootstrap.bind(ServerBootstrap.java:272) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.apache.zookeeper.server.NettyServerCnxnFactory.reconfigure(NettyServerCnxnFactory.java:494) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeer.processReconfig(QuorumPeer.java:1947) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Follower.processPacket(Follower.java:154) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Follower.followLeader(Follower.java:93) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeer.run(QuorumPeer.java:1263) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] Caused by: java.net.BindException: Address > > >>>>>> already in use > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind0(Native Method) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:433) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:425) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketChannelImpl.bind(ServerSocketChannelImpl.java:223) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketAdaptor.bind(ServerSocketAdaptor.java:74) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerBoss$RegisterTask.run(NioServerBoss.java:193) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.AbstractNioSelector.processTaskQueue(AbstractNioSelector.java:391) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.AbstractNioSelector.run(AbstractNioSelector.java:315) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerBoss.run(NioServerBoss.java:42) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.util.ThreadRenamingRunnable.run(ThreadRenamingRunnable.java:108) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> org.jboss.netty.util.internal.DeadLockProofWorker$1.run(DeadLockProofWorker.java:42) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1149) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at > > >>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:624) > > >>>>>> [exec] [junit] at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We currently log-and-swallow this exception (and many others) down in > > >>>>>> NettyServerCnxnFactory.reconfigure() and > > >>>>>> NIOServerCnxnFactory.reconfigure(), which is ... not ideal. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> How should we handle a bind failure in the real world? Seems like we > > >>>>>> ought to throw a BindException out at least as far as the caller of > > >>>>>> QuorumPeer.processReconfig(). That's either > > >>>>>> Follower/Leader/Learner/Observer or FastLeaderElection. Presumably > > >>>>>> they should immediately go read-only when they can't bind the client > > >>>>>> port? > > >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 1:23 AM Enrico Olivelli > > >>>>>> <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thank you very much Michael > > >>>>>>> I am following and reviewing your patches > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Enrico > > >>>>>>> Il giorno gio 22 nov 2018 alle ore 10:14 Michael K. Edwards > > >>>>>>> <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hmm. Jira's a bit of a boneyard, isn't it? And timeouts in flaky > > >>>>>>>> tests are a problem. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I scrubbed through the open bugs and picked the ones that looked > > >>>>>>>> to me > > >>>>>>>> like they might deserve attention for 3.5.5 or soon thereafter. > > >>>>>>>> They're all on my watchlist: > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=-1&jql=watcher%20%3D%20mkedwards%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20ORDER%20BY%20created%20ASC > > >>>>>>>> (I'm not counting the Ant->Maven transition in that, which I don't > > >>>>>>>> know much about.) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I'm trying out some more verbose logging for the junit tests, to > > >>>>>>>> try > > >>>>>>>> to understand test flakiness. But the Jenkins pre-commit pipeline > > >>>>>>>> appears to be down? > > >>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-github-pr-build/ > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM Michael K. Edwards > > >>>>>>>> <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Looks like we're really close. Can I help? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I think this is the list of release blockers: > > >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20ZooKeeper%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20and%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.5.5%20AND%20priority%20in%20(blocker%2C%20critical)%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC%2C%20key%20ASC > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I currently see 7 issues in that search, of which 4 are aspects > > >>>>>>>>> of the > > >>>>>>>>> ongoing switch from ant to maven. Setting that aside for the > > >>>>>>>>> moment, > > >>>>>>>>> there are 3 critical bugs: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-2778 Potential server deadlock between follower sync > > >>>>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>>>> leader and follower receiving external connection requests. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-1636 c-client crash when zoo_amulti failed > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-1818 Fix don't care for trunk > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I put them in that order because that's the order in which I've > > >>>>>>>>> stacked the fixes in > > >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mkedwards/zookeeper/tree/branch-3.5. Then on > > >>>>>>>>> top > > >>>>>>>>> of that, I've updated the versions of the external library > > >>>>>>>>> dependencies I think it's important to update: Jetty, Jackson, and > > >>>>>>>>> BouncyCastle. The result seems to be a green build in Jenkins: > > >>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-github-pr-build/2705/ > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Are these fixes in principle landable on the 3.5 branch, or do > > >>>>>>>>> they > > >>>>>>>>> have to go to master first? Does master need help to build green > > >>>>>>>>> before these can land there? Are there other bugs that are > > >>>>>>>>> similarly > > >>>>>>>>> critical to fix, and not tagged for 3.5.5 in Jira? Is there other > > >>>>>>>>> testing that I can help with? Are more hands needed on the Maven > > >>>>>>>>> work? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for all the work that goes into keeping Zookeeper healthy > > >>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>> advancing; it's a critical infrastructure component in several > > >>>>>>>>> systems > > >>>>>>>>> I help develop and operate, and I like being able to rely on it. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>> - Michael > >
