To me the interesting features of a modern chat system aren’t easily achievable 
by an Adium-like project. I want end-to-end encryption and I want cloud 
transcript syncing between clients as fundamental basics before I would even 
consider using a service. Then I need a network effect of the service so people 
I know are using it.

I struggle to picture a world where a project like Adium could deliver that.

Luke

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Moses Lei <b...@moseslei.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm curious as to what services people are using Adium with these days? I'm 
> not sure if this is a popular opinion, but perhaps we should just gracefully 
> end Adium development, if our user/developer base has declined to that point. 
> Like it or not, the days of interoperable protocols seem to be over, and 
> there are almost no services out there that have an API for third party 
> clients anymore.
> 
> My initial reason to contribute to Adium was because of IRC. I'm a cloud 
> architect / IT consultant and over the last few years, almost all my use 
> cases for Adium disappeared.
> 
> Personal use cases:
> - Facebook XMPP - deprecated by provider
> - AIM - no friends use anymore
> - Google Talk XMPP - replaced with Hangouts mobile app
> - Yahoo - no friends use anymore
> - Twitter - replaced with mobile app
> 
> Business/work use cases:
> - IRC - Replaced with Slack
> - SIPE/Lync - Replaced with Slack in one case, HipChat in another, firewalled 
> off in a third (so now we have to use the Windows desktop app via RDS)
> 
> So, I have not needed Adium for anything for 4-5 years now (it's not even 
> installed on my last two machines) and thus have no impetus to work on it 
> anymore. I'm curious to know if other people have had the same experience.
> 
> Current IM services that I use:
> - SMS
> - iMessage
> - Slack
> - WhatsApp
> - Skype
> - LINE
> - WeChat
> 
> As far as I know, there is no support in almost any of these for third-party 
> clients, so the raison d'etre for an app like Adium is not fulfillable-- even 
> if we manage to get it onto mobile where it might be more useful.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Moses
> 
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Colin Barrett <co...@springsandstruts.com 
> <mailto:co...@springsandstruts.com>> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> 
> I've been trying to get our trac instance back online, or at least recover 
> the dat from it for export. I dropped the ball a bit here, however. In my 
> defense, life has been getting in the way, not a lack of desire.
> 
> If anyone thinks they can be particularly helpful with that, please get in 
> touch with me here or on IRC.
> 
> -Colin
> 
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com 
> <mailto:g...@reaperworld.com>> wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> 
> This is Gary Kramlich current lead developer of Pidgin.  I'm reaching out to 
> try and figure out what we can do to get Adium back on it's feet.  I have 
> many ideas and would love to share them with you all.  So who wants to help?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com <mailto:g...@reaperworld.com>>

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