What about implementing own transparent encrypted service? And deliver an 
opensource version ? 

> Am 18.01.2019 um 18:40 schrieb Luke Hiesterman <gravis...@gmail.com>:
> 
> To me the interesting features of a modern chat system aren’t easily 
> achievable by an Adium-like project. I want end-to-end encryption and I want 
> cloud transcript syncing between clients as fundamental basics before I would 
> even consider using a service. Then I need a network effect of the service so 
> people I know are using it.
> 
> I struggle to picture a world where a project like Adium could deliver that.
> 
> Luke
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Moses Lei <b...@moseslei.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious as to what services people are using Adium with these days? I'm 
>> not sure if this is a popular opinion, but perhaps we should just gracefully 
>> end Adium development, if our user/developer base has declined to that 
>> point. Like it or not, the days of interoperable protocols seem to be over, 
>> and there are almost no services out there that have an API for third party 
>> clients anymore.
>> 
>> My initial reason to contribute to Adium was because of IRC. I'm a cloud 
>> architect / IT consultant and over the last few years, almost all my use 
>> cases for Adium disappeared.
>> 
>> Personal use cases:
>> - Facebook XMPP - deprecated by provider
>> - AIM - no friends use anymore
>> - Google Talk XMPP - replaced with Hangouts mobile app
>> - Yahoo - no friends use anymore
>> - Twitter - replaced with mobile app
>> 
>> Business/work use cases:
>> - IRC - Replaced with Slack
>> - SIPE/Lync - Replaced with Slack in one case, HipChat in another, 
>> firewalled off in a third (so now we have to use the Windows desktop app via 
>> RDS)
>> 
>> So, I have not needed Adium for anything for 4-5 years now (it's not even 
>> installed on my last two machines) and thus have no impetus to work on it 
>> anymore. I'm curious to know if other people have had the same experience.
>> 
>> Current IM services that I use:
>> - SMS
>> - iMessage
>> - Slack
>> - WhatsApp
>> - Skype
>> - LINE
>> - WeChat
>> 
>> As far as I know, there is no support in almost any of these for third-party 
>> clients, so the raison d'etre for an app like Adium is not fulfillable-- 
>> even if we manage to get it onto mobile where it might be more useful.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Moses
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Colin Barrett <co...@springsandstruts.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to get our trac instance back online, or at least recover 
>>> the dat from it for export. I dropped the ball a bit here, however. In my 
>>> defense, life has been getting in the way, not a lack of desire.
>>> 
>>> If anyone thinks they can be particularly helpful with that, please get in 
>>> touch with me here or on IRC.
>>> 
>>> -Colin
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> This is Gary Kramlich current lead developer of Pidgin.  I'm reaching out 
>>>> to try and figure out what we can do to get Adium back on it's feet.  I 
>>>> have many ideas and would love to share them with you all.  So who wants 
>>>> to help?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com>
> 

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