My coworkers and I all use Adium for OTR chat over Google Talk and generic XMPP. Who can't picture a world where Adium provides end-to-end encryption? I use it for that purpose every day.
Google will never deliver a compact, efficient, no-frills, usable, end-to-end encrypted chat solution on the desktop. Neither will WhatsApp, Signal, Slack, HipChat or any other app coming from a culture of full-screen iPad fondling. Every few years I try Pidgin and Psi+ and find them lacking in usability and decent visual compactness compared to Adium as well. Adium with yMous is irreplaceable for me. At the very least, I think it can prosper as the premiere desktop client for Google Talk and XMPP, protocols which remain open and widely-used. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:16 PM Luke Hiesterman <gravis...@gmail.com> wrote: > To me the interesting features of a modern chat system aren’t easily > achievable by an Adium-like project. I want end-to-end encryption and I > want cloud transcript syncing between clients as fundamental basics before > I would even consider using a service. Then I need a network effect of the > service so people I know are using it. > > I struggle to picture a world where a project like Adium could deliver > that. > > Luke > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Moses Lei <b...@moseslei.net> wrote: > > I'm curious as to what services people are using Adium with these days? > I'm not sure if this is a popular opinion, but perhaps we should just > gracefully end Adium development, if our user/developer base has declined > to that point. Like it or not, the days of interoperable protocols seem to > be over, and there are almost no services out there that have an API for > third party clients anymore. > > My initial reason to contribute to Adium was because of IRC. I'm a cloud > architect / IT consultant and over the last few years, almost all my use > cases for Adium disappeared. > > Personal use cases: > - Facebook XMPP - deprecated by provider > - AIM - no friends use anymore > - Google Talk XMPP - replaced with Hangouts mobile app > - Yahoo - no friends use anymore > - Twitter - replaced with mobile app > > Business/work use cases: > - IRC - Replaced with Slack > - SIPE/Lync - Replaced with Slack in one case, HipChat in another, > firewalled off in a third (so now we have to use the Windows desktop app > via RDS) > > So, I have not needed Adium for anything for 4-5 years now (it's not even > installed on my last two machines) and thus have no impetus to work on it > anymore. I'm curious to know if other people have had the same experience. > > Current IM services that I use: > - SMS > - iMessage > - Slack > - WhatsApp > - Skype > - LINE > - WeChat > > As far as I know, there is no support in almost any of these for > third-party clients, so the raison d'etre for an app like Adium is not > fulfillable-- even if we manage to get it onto mobile where it might be > more useful. > > Thoughts? > > Moses > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Colin Barrett <co...@springsandstruts.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Gary, >> >> I've been trying to get our trac instance back online, or at least >> recover the dat from it for export. I dropped the ball a bit here, however. >> In my defense, life has been getting in the way, not a lack of desire. >> >> If anyone thinks they can be particularly helpful with that, please get >> in touch with me here or on IRC. >> >> -Colin >> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone! >>> >>> This is Gary Kramlich current lead developer of Pidgin. I'm reaching >>> out to try and figure out what we can do to get Adium back on it's feet. I >>> have many ideas and would love to share them with you all. So who wants to >>> help? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com> >>> >> >
