I don’t think the feedback list history is of any particular value at this point. I wouldn’t worry about retaining it… and furthermore, I agree that a black hole is worse than no mailing list at all. Discourse, or the ticket system on GitHub, seem appropriate.
-Evan On Dec 2, 2020, 6:48 PM -0500, Mathuaerknedam ! <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com>, wrote: > It looks like feedback was originally a mailbox that was later recreated as a > mailing list. Plesk migrated the mailbox and ignored the list. Few questions: > > 1. Do we need the old mailbox content? Its most recent message is from 2009. > 2. I can recreate the feedback mailing list, but it would be nice if someone > actually responded to users. I'm not sure it's worth keeping it if it's just > a black hole. > 3. Is there really any need for a feedback email? Should we request a free > Discourse site? > https://meta.discourse.org/t/free-hosting-for-open-source-v2/101940 > 4. It's possible to import mailing list history into Discourse, and then drop > the mailing lists. This even works for people who can't or won't switch from > email to a web gui. > > #3 also relates to Cocoaforge. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:58 AM Mathuaerknedam ! <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > All of the mailing lists have been migrated, with archives, settings, and > > > subscribers. Unfortunately, some subscriber settings are not transferable > > > (e.g language) and others are kinda tedious to preserve (e.g. digest, > > > nomail), so all subscribers are currently regular (receiving individual > > > messages) and all individual settings have been set to the default. > > > > > > All mailboxes and forwards have been migrated as well, though we should > > > find out if anyone is actually checking those mailboxes. If you can or do > > > check one of the following, let us know: > > > > > > probably old system boxes that can be trashed: > > > ad...@adium.im 109k > > > adi...@adiumxtras.com 4k > > > cfad...@cocoaforge.com 4k > > > for...@adium.im 4k > > > for...@cocoaforge.com 38.3M > > > > > > feedb...@adium.im 44.4M > > > postmas...@adium.im 41.4M > > > robot...@adium.im 8.94k > > > s...@adium.im 4k > > > > > > If nobody is checking these, we'll reset the password and check the > > > contents before deciding what to do with them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:28 PM Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote: > > > > > Todo list, keep in mind this mailing list is hosted on the box about > > > > > to be decommissioned. > > > > > > > > > > Today: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Point DNS records to the new name servers. Who has access to the > > > > > registrar to do these moves today? > > > > > - adium.im > > > > > - adiumxtras.com > > > > > - adiumx.com > > > > > - cocoaforge.com - I have this, if the db gets moved > > > > > > > > > > 2) Getting data over to Jordan. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Jordan configures the new server. He gave me access to it to at > > > > > least have one backup for now > > > > > > > > > > 4) Someone logs into cpanel if they can on the old server and looks > > > > > for any other configurations. Mail forwarding, whatever. This is > > > > > probably all in the backup but it's probably harder to figure out > > > > > than looking at cpanel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomorrow > > > > > > > > > > 5) Decide what to do about the minis. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Decide whether to keep phpbb and cocoaforge forums or forward > > > > > cocoaforge to github. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think 1-4 are the most important. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:10 PM Mathuaerknedam ! > > > > > > <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Early 2009 Mini: limited to El Capitan (10.11), released in 2015 > > > > > > > and last updated in 2018. Probably not something we want to be > > > > > > > supporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:54 PM Thijs Alkemade > > > > > > > > <m...@thijsalkema.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I can still reach them. They are a Mid 2007 and Eary 2009 > > > > > > > > > model, which won’t be worth very much nowadays. I don’t think > > > > > > > > > they’ll be of any use, but ultimately I think Evan should > > > > > > > > > decide on what to do with them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thijs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30 Nov 2020, at 01:27, Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can’t access the Minis at present; can anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We clearly don’t need two. Maybe the newer of them could be > > > > > > > > > > useful for legacy compatibility testing purposes? Though I > > > > > > > > > > would think there are virtualization solutions that are > > > > > > > > > > more convenient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know where the AdiumXtras database is stored? > > > > > > > > > > I have a "full backup” that Network redux provided, but I > > > > > > > > > > recall that we lost the entirety of Trac because a “full > > > > > > > > > > backup” didn’t actually include whatever relationship > > > > > > > > > > database it was depending on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Evan > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 29, 2020, 12:41 AM -0500, Chris Forsythe > > > > > > > > > > <ch...@growl.info>, wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I sent the zone files to a few of you directly. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> What do you want to do with the Mac minis? I think they > > > > > > > > > >> probably need an answer there soon. I’m not sure about how > > > > > > > > > >> old they are but I remember them getting set up when I was > > > > > > > > > >> still active with the project and that was a long time ago. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Thijs Alkemade > > > > > > > > > >>> <th...@xnyhps.nl> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi Mathuaerknedam, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> I’m worried about not being able to access services > > > > > > > > > >>> because they require some email validation or a password > > > > > > > > > >>> reset. Maybe a temporary solution without the mailing > > > > > > > > > >>> lists that still allows us to receive mail could be a > > > > > > > > > >>> good idea. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> The nameservers for our domains are also set to NR. If I > > > > > > > > > >>> remember correctly they are registered on the IMF account > > > > > > > > > >>> at Gandi. I think it would be best to migrate our > > > > > > > > > >>> nameservers to Gandi… but I don’t think I have the zone > > > > > > > > > >>> files for any of our domains. Do you know if we still > > > > > > > > > >>> have some way to obtain our current DNS records without > > > > > > > > > >>> access to the NR account? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Thijs > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On 23 Nov 2020, at 03:40, Mathuaerknedam ! > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at > > > > > > > > > >>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for > > > > > > > > > >>>>> those? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Probably? As far as I can tell, the NR user account > > > > > > > > > >>>> systems have already been disabled. I'm guessing only > > > > > > > > > >>>> Evan can work with NR now? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> It's easy enough to grab mailing list archives and > > > > > > > > > >>>> subscriber lists, but they would need imported into > > > > > > > > > >>>> something to be useful. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Thijs Alkemade > > > > > > > > > >>>> <m...@thijsalkema.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I’ve made backups of / on Duck and Eider, and of the > > > > > > > > > >>>> Adium user’s home directory from Muscovy and Smew. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Separately, I’ve made mysql and postgresql dumps. I hope > > > > > > > > > >>>> this means we don’t lose any critical data. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I agree that Github’s static hosting would be fine for > > > > > > > > > >>>> the website. The thing I’m most worried about is email > > > > > > > > > >>>> for @adium.im, both personal forwards and the mailing > > > > > > > > > >>>> lists. Does someone have thoughts on how to handle that? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thijs > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 17:03, Thijs Alkemade > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> <m...@thijsalkema.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hello all, > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> It’s now 2 weeks until December 1st. Did somebody start > > > > > > > > > >>>>> with a migration? (Or at least, pulling backups of the > > > > > > > > > >>>>> servers.) > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at > > > > > > > > > >>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for > > > > > > > > > >>>>> those? > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thijs > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 14:06, Jordan <jas8...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Happy to host whatever isn’t handled by GitHub @ > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> websavers.ca > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jordan > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:29 AM Asher Haig > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> <as...@strong.ai> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> What if we just made an Xtras repo and let people make > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> pull requests? > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Asher > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Andrew Harvey > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> <and...@mootpointer.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I’ve put some feelers out at work (I work for a > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> company with a large cloud computing division). There > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are a lot of people with a soft spot for Adium there > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> so hopefully we can find someone to champion the > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> cause. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I’m guessing the traffic requirements aren’t huge for > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> AdiumXtras (and yes, everything else could and should > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> probably live on GitHub) > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Andrew. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 05:20, Evan Schoenberg > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <e...@adium.im> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The majority of extant resources can be handled > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> through GitHub easily. They provide free web > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hosting, and we’re not doing anything fancy with the > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> current adium.im site. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I’m not sure what adiumxtras’ needs are, though. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Evan > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Evan D. Schoenberg, M.D. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Cataract, Cornea, and Vision Correction Surgeon > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Georgia Eye Partners > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Northside > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Suite 108 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Atlanta, GA 30342 404-531-9988 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Johns Creek > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 10080 Medlock Bridge Rd > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Duluth, GA 30097 770-623-3931 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Woodstock > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 120 Stone Bridge Pkwy > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Suite 415 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Woodstock GA 30189 770-623-3931 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2020, 6:26 AM -0400, Robert Vehse > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <robertve...@fastmail.fm>, wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> NetworkRedux is retiring from the hosting business > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> on > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 1 December 2020. This means we will need to migrate > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> our entire infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Matthew said he wouldn't be able to help with that > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> before November, if at all. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Robbie > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jordan > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Matthew > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Chris Forsythe > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Matthew > > > -- > > Matthew
