The free hosted Discourse doesn't allow direct importation of Mailman history, but does allow importing a Discourse backup. So the process involves setting up a "local" instance, importing the mailing list history ourselves, and then creating a backup for the hosted service. I'm assuming the same is true for phpBB?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:10 AM Jordan <jas8...@gmail.com> wrote: > Using GitHub issues for tracking most of these things makes a lot of > sense, but I think using a hosted solution that replaces this mailing list > is a good idea. Gmail servers, in particular, do not like the change of IP > address and they're delaying delivery of messages from this mailing list, > in some cases significantly. > > Related to this: A couple days ago I updated the cocoaforge phpBB to the > latest release to make it work with PHP 7. But Discourse does not support > importing from the latest version of phpBB so if we're going to do that, we > should do it asap so that we can import from the backup of the DB that was > using the older version. Posts on Cocoaforge made after Dec 3 won't be able > to be imported to Discourse. (I suppose we could also just disable new > posts to the Adium forum?) > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> wrote: > >> I don’t think the feedback list history is of any particular value at >> this point. I wouldn’t worry about retaining it… and furthermore, I agree >> that a black hole is worse than no mailing list at all. Discourse, or the >> ticket system on GitHub, seem appropriate. >> >> >> -Evan >> On Dec 2, 2020, 6:48 PM -0500, Mathuaerknedam ! <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com>, >> wrote: >> >> It looks like feedback was originally a mailbox that was later recreated >> as a mailing list. Plesk migrated the mailbox and ignored the list. Few >> questions: >> >> 1. Do we need the old mailbox content? Its most recent message is from >> 2009. >> 2. I can recreate the feedback mailing list, but it would be nice if >> someone actually responded to users. I'm not sure it's worth keeping it if >> it's just a black hole. >> 3. Is there really any need for a feedback email? Should we request a >> free Discourse site? >> https://meta.discourse.org/t/free-hosting-for-open-source-v2/101940 >> 4. It's possible to import mailing list history into Discourse, and then >> drop the mailing lists. This even works for people who can't or won't >> switch from email to a web gui. >> >> #3 also relates to Cocoaforge. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:58 AM Mathuaerknedam ! < >> mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> All of the mailing lists have been migrated, with archives, settings, >>> and subscribers. Unfortunately, some subscriber settings are not >>> transferable (e.g language) and others are kinda tedious to preserve (e.g. >>> digest, nomail), so all subscribers are currently regular (receiving >>> individual messages) and all individual settings have been set to the >>> default. >>> >>> All mailboxes and forwards have been migrated as well, though we should >>> find out if anyone is actually checking those mailboxes. If you can or do >>> check one of the following, let us know: >>> >>> probably old system boxes that can be trashed: >>> ad...@adium.im 109k >>> adi...@adiumxtras.com 4k >>> cfad...@cocoaforge.com 4k >>> for...@adium.im 4k >>> for...@cocoaforge.com 38.3M >>> >>> feedb...@adium.im 44.4M >>> postmas...@adium.im 41.4M >>> robot...@adium.im 8.94k >>> s...@adium.im 4k >>> >>> If nobody is checking these, we'll reset the password and check the >>> contents before deciding what to do with them. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:28 PM Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Todo list, keep in mind this mailing list is hosted on the box about to >>>> be decommissioned. >>>> >>>> Today: >>>> >>>> 1) Point DNS records to the new name servers. Who has access to the >>>> registrar to do these moves today? >>>> - adium.im >>>> - adiumxtras.com >>>> - adiumx.com >>>> - cocoaforge.com - I have this, if the db gets moved >>>> >>>> 2) Getting data over to Jordan. >>>> >>>> 3) Jordan configures the new server. He gave me access to it to at >>>> least have one backup for now >>>> >>>> 4) Someone logs into cpanel if they can on the old server and looks for >>>> any other configurations. Mail forwarding, whatever. This is probably all >>>> in the backup but it's probably harder to figure out than looking at >>>> cpanel. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tomorrow >>>> >>>> 5) Decide what to do about the minis. >>>> >>>> 6) Decide whether to keep phpbb and cocoaforge forums or forward >>>> cocoaforge to github. >>>> >>>> >>>> I think 1-4 are the most important. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:10 PM Mathuaerknedam ! < >>>> mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Early 2009 Mini: limited to El Capitan (10.11), released in 2015 and >>>>> last updated in 2018. Probably not something we want to be supporting. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:54 PM Thijs Alkemade <m...@thijsalkema.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I can still reach them. They are a Mid 2007 and Eary 2009 model, >>>>>> which won’t be worth very much nowadays. I don’t think they’ll be of any >>>>>> use, but ultimately I think Evan should decide on what to do with them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thijs >>>>>> >>>>>> > On 30 Nov 2020, at 01:27, Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I can’t access the Minis at present; can anyone? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > We clearly don’t need two. Maybe the newer of them could be useful >>>>>> for legacy compatibility testing purposes? Though I would think there >>>>>> are >>>>>> virtualization solutions that are more convenient. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Does anyone know where the AdiumXtras database is stored? I have a >>>>>> "full backup” that Network redux provided, but I recall that we lost the >>>>>> entirety of Trac because a “full backup” didn’t actually include whatever >>>>>> relationship database it was depending on... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -Evan >>>>>> > On Nov 29, 2020, 12:41 AM -0500, Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info>, >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> I sent the zone files to a few of you directly. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> What do you want to do with the Mac minis? I think they probably >>>>>> need an answer there soon. I’m not sure about how old they are but I >>>>>> remember them getting set up when I was still active with the project and >>>>>> that was a long time ago. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Thijs Alkemade <th...@xnyhps.nl> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Hi Mathuaerknedam, >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I’m worried about not being able to access services because they >>>>>> require some email validation or a password reset. Maybe a temporary >>>>>> solution without the mailing lists that still allows us to receive mail >>>>>> could be a good idea. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> The nameservers for our domains are also set to NR. If I remember >>>>>> correctly they are registered on the IMF account at Gandi. I think it >>>>>> would >>>>>> be best to migrate our nameservers to Gandi… but I don’t think I have the >>>>>> zone files for any of our domains. Do you know if we still have some way >>>>>> to >>>>>> obtain our current DNS records without access to the NR account? >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Thijs >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 23 Nov 2020, at 03:40, Mathuaerknedam ! < >>>>>> mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at >>>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for those? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Probably? As far as I can tell, the NR user account systems have >>>>>> already been disabled. I'm guessing only Evan can work with NR now? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> It's easy enough to grab mailing list archives and subscriber >>>>>> lists, but they would need imported into something to be useful. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Thijs Alkemade < >>>>>> m...@thijsalkema.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> I’ve made backups of / on Duck and Eider, and of the Adium >>>>>> user’s home directory from Muscovy and Smew. Separately, I’ve made mysql >>>>>> and postgresql dumps. I hope this means we don’t lose any critical data. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> I agree that Github’s static hosting would be fine for the >>>>>> website. The thing I’m most worried about is email for @adium.im, >>>>>> both personal forwards and the mailing lists. Does someone have thoughts >>>>>> on >>>>>> how to handle that? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>> Thijs >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 17:03, Thijs Alkemade <m...@thijsalkema.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> It’s now 2 weeks until December 1st. Did somebody start with a >>>>>> migration? (Or at least, pulling backups of the servers.) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at >>>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for those? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Thijs >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 14:06, Jordan <jas8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy to host whatever isn’t handled by GitHub @ websavers.ca >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jordan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:29 AM Asher Haig <as...@strong.ai> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What if we just made an Xtras repo and let people make pull >>>>>> requests? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Asher >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Andrew Harvey < >>>>>> and...@mootpointer.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve put some feelers out at work (I work for a company with >>>>>> a large cloud computing division). There are a lot of people with a soft >>>>>> spot for Adium there so hopefully we can find someone to champion the >>>>>> cause. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m guessing the traffic requirements aren’t huge for >>>>>> AdiumXtras (and yes, everything else could and should probably live on >>>>>> GitHub) >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Andrew. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 05:20, Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> The majority of extant resources can be handled through >>>>>> GitHub easily. 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This means we will need to migrate our >>>>>> entire infrastructure. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthew said he wouldn't be able to help with that before >>>>>> November, if at all. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robbie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jordan >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Matthew >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chris Forsythe >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Matthew >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Matthew >> >> -- Matthew
