Using GitHub issues for tracking most of these things makes a lot of sense, but I think using a hosted solution that replaces this mailing list is a good idea. Gmail servers, in particular, do not like the change of IP address and they're delaying delivery of messages from this mailing list, in some cases significantly.
Related to this: A couple days ago I updated the cocoaforge phpBB to the latest release to make it work with PHP 7. But Discourse does not support importing from the latest version of phpBB so if we're going to do that, we should do it asap so that we can import from the backup of the DB that was using the older version. Posts on Cocoaforge made after Dec 3 won't be able to be imported to Discourse. (I suppose we could also just disable new posts to the Adium forum?) On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> wrote: > I don’t think the feedback list history is of any particular value at this > point. I wouldn’t worry about retaining it… and furthermore, I agree that a > black hole is worse than no mailing list at all. Discourse, or the ticket > system on GitHub, seem appropriate. > > > -Evan > On Dec 2, 2020, 6:48 PM -0500, Mathuaerknedam ! <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com>, > wrote: > > It looks like feedback was originally a mailbox that was later recreated > as a mailing list. Plesk migrated the mailbox and ignored the list. Few > questions: > > 1. Do we need the old mailbox content? Its most recent message is from > 2009. > 2. I can recreate the feedback mailing list, but it would be nice if > someone actually responded to users. I'm not sure it's worth keeping it if > it's just a black hole. > 3. Is there really any need for a feedback email? Should we request a free > Discourse site? > https://meta.discourse.org/t/free-hosting-for-open-source-v2/101940 > 4. It's possible to import mailing list history into Discourse, and then > drop the mailing lists. This even works for people who can't or won't > switch from email to a web gui. > > #3 also relates to Cocoaforge. > > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:58 AM Mathuaerknedam ! <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> All of the mailing lists have been migrated, with archives, settings, and >> subscribers. Unfortunately, some subscriber settings are not transferable >> (e.g language) and others are kinda tedious to preserve (e.g. digest, >> nomail), so all subscribers are currently regular (receiving individual >> messages) and all individual settings have been set to the default. >> >> All mailboxes and forwards have been migrated as well, though we should >> find out if anyone is actually checking those mailboxes. If you can or do >> check one of the following, let us know: >> >> probably old system boxes that can be trashed: >> ad...@adium.im 109k >> adi...@adiumxtras.com 4k >> cfad...@cocoaforge.com 4k >> for...@adium.im 4k >> for...@cocoaforge.com 38.3M >> >> feedb...@adium.im 44.4M >> postmas...@adium.im 41.4M >> robot...@adium.im 8.94k >> s...@adium.im 4k >> >> If nobody is checking these, we'll reset the password and check the >> contents before deciding what to do with them. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:28 PM Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote: >> >>> Todo list, keep in mind this mailing list is hosted on the box about to >>> be decommissioned. >>> >>> Today: >>> >>> 1) Point DNS records to the new name servers. Who has access to the >>> registrar to do these moves today? >>> - adium.im >>> - adiumxtras.com >>> - adiumx.com >>> - cocoaforge.com - I have this, if the db gets moved >>> >>> 2) Getting data over to Jordan. >>> >>> 3) Jordan configures the new server. He gave me access to it to at least >>> have one backup for now >>> >>> 4) Someone logs into cpanel if they can on the old server and looks for >>> any other configurations. Mail forwarding, whatever. This is probably all >>> in the backup but it's probably harder to figure out than looking at cpanel. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tomorrow >>> >>> 5) Decide what to do about the minis. >>> >>> 6) Decide whether to keep phpbb and cocoaforge forums or forward >>> cocoaforge to github. >>> >>> >>> I think 1-4 are the most important. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:10 PM Mathuaerknedam ! < >>> mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Early 2009 Mini: limited to El Capitan (10.11), released in 2015 and >>>> last updated in 2018. Probably not something we want to be supporting. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:54 PM Thijs Alkemade <m...@thijsalkema.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can still reach them. They are a Mid 2007 and Eary 2009 model, which >>>>> won’t be worth very much nowadays. I don’t think they’ll be of any use, >>>>> but >>>>> ultimately I think Evan should decide on what to do with them. >>>>> >>>>> Thijs >>>>> >>>>> > On 30 Nov 2020, at 01:27, Evan Schoenberg <e...@adium.im> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I can’t access the Minis at present; can anyone? >>>>> > >>>>> > We clearly don’t need two. Maybe the newer of them could be useful >>>>> for legacy compatibility testing purposes? Though I would think there are >>>>> virtualization solutions that are more convenient. >>>>> > >>>>> > Does anyone know where the AdiumXtras database is stored? I have a >>>>> "full backup” that Network redux provided, but I recall that we lost the >>>>> entirety of Trac because a “full backup” didn’t actually include whatever >>>>> relationship database it was depending on... >>>>> > >>>>> > -Evan >>>>> > On Nov 29, 2020, 12:41 AM -0500, Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info>, >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> I sent the zone files to a few of you directly. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> What do you want to do with the Mac minis? I think they probably >>>>> need an answer there soon. I’m not sure about how old they are but I >>>>> remember them getting set up when I was still active with the project and >>>>> that was a long time ago. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Thijs Alkemade <th...@xnyhps.nl> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Hi Mathuaerknedam, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I’m worried about not being able to access services because they >>>>> require some email validation or a password reset. Maybe a temporary >>>>> solution without the mailing lists that still allows us to receive mail >>>>> could be a good idea. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> The nameservers for our domains are also set to NR. If I remember >>>>> correctly they are registered on the IMF account at Gandi. I think it >>>>> would >>>>> be best to migrate our nameservers to Gandi… but I don’t think I have the >>>>> zone files for any of our domains. Do you know if we still have some way >>>>> to >>>>> obtain our current DNS records without access to the NR account? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Thijs >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Nov 2020, at 03:40, Mathuaerknedam ! < >>>>> mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at >>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for those? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Probably? As far as I can tell, the NR user account systems have >>>>> already been disabled. I'm guessing only Evan can work with NR now? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> It's easy enough to grab mailing list archives and subscriber >>>>> lists, but they would need imported into something to be useful. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Thijs Alkemade <m...@thijsalkema.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I’ve made backups of / on Duck and Eider, and of the Adium user’s >>>>> home directory from Muscovy and Smew. Separately, I’ve made mysql and >>>>> postgresql dumps. I hope this means we don’t lose any critical data. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I agree that Github’s static hosting would be fine for the >>>>> website. The thing I’m most worried about is email for @adium.im, >>>>> both personal forwards and the mailing lists. Does someone have thoughts >>>>> on >>>>> how to handle that? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>> Thijs >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 17:03, Thijs Alkemade <m...@thijsalkema.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It’s now 2 weeks until December 1st. Did somebody start with a >>>>> migration? (Or at least, pulling backups of the servers.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, we also have 2 Mac Mini’s at >>>>> NetworkRedux. Do we also need to arrange something for those? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thijs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 14:06, Jordan <jas8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Happy to host whatever isn’t handled by GitHub @ websavers.ca >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Jordan >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:29 AM Asher Haig <as...@strong.ai> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What if we just made an Xtras repo and let people make pull >>>>> requests? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Asher >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Andrew Harvey < >>>>> and...@mootpointer.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve put some feelers out at work (I work for a company with a >>>>> large cloud computing division). 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