Hi Nikos
Thanks for your answers
I'll try sms-outgoing-queue-limit parameter and see what happens
Regards
Alvaro
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2009/6/10 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>:
> Hi Al,
>
> Please see inline answers. Kannel load balances all available smscs during
> operation. The only problem is that during startup, it starts sms_router too
> soon. From the discussion, i see that a patch may not even be necessary, it
> could be a configuration issue. Else I could always update the patch to
> account for more cases.
>
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "Alan McNatty" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get stuck
> inqueue
>
>
>> Hi Nikos
>
>> I'm still around here... I've been busy this lasts days... I wish I
>> was on vacations ;-)
>
>> Regarding this patch, -I didn't had time to test it- but seems to
>> solve the issue making kannel hold the queue assignment until all
>> smsc's are online. However I do agree with Alan in the fact that that
>> solution is not suitable since there can be many scenarios where an
>> smsc will not come online or might be delayed at kannel startup and
>> this will delay all message traffic.
>
> If one could describe me these scenarios (when bbox will startup
> succesfully, with smscs failing) I could implement them in the code.
>
>> I'll be for a solution where Kannel recalculate its queue(loadbalance)
>> for a given destination when a new destination for the given
>> route/destination is available/unavailable and not only at startup.
>
> That's what it does all of the time. The only difference, at startup, it
> starts sms_router too soon.
>
>> Another option might be to make kannel have an intermediate queue that
>> is not assigned to an smsc until the smsc queue is less than 5min on
>> the spscific smsc. This way in case of a restart, the 1st smsc to be
>> available will get a moderate queue and the rest of smsc's will
>> loadbalace the rest of messages once.
>
>> Would something like that might be possible? I fear that an approach
>> like this one will require a big remake of kannel queue/load
>> management and I doubt kannel team will go for it.
>
> I can do that. No problem. But you don't need a patch for that, you can use
> configuration. Have you tried setting in smsc group:
>
> sms-outgoing-queue-limit = 50?
>
> This will push the first 50 sms to your smsc, and then push single sms,
> until your other smscs go online.
>
>> Also I stick in the opinion that kannel shouldn't panic if it can't
>> set active/enable an smsc on startup since there can be other smscs
>> that can process messages for other routes/destinations. This issue is
>> more important since the only workarroud is to edit kannel.conf
>> comment the offending smsc and restart kannel.... and once the smsc is
>> fixed, re-edit kannel.conf and restart kannel since so far, there is
>> no way to make kannel reread the config file.
>
> We are in total agreement. I never liked this issue myself, either (both
> failing to startup and not reconfiguring on the fly).
>
>> Once I test the patch I'll let you know. Probably this weekend.
>
> Please don't. Wait for the patch update.
>
>> Regards and THANKS for your time & Support.
>
> No pro, bro. Sorry for the delay, and for your ordeal. Mexico should be
> beautiful this time of the year.
>
> Alvaro
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Alan McNatty<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nikos,
>>
>> OK, yeah I'm not about failure at start-up time. If an SMSC is off-line
>> (SMPP timeout/retry during bind) kannel will start (simply config a
>> bogus IP address for SMPP to test this out). An example is lets say we
>> have 2 connections for load balancing. Now consider 1 smsc being taken
>> offline (no tcp connection) as it is upgraded, we can still send through
>> the other (this is also useful for DR - disaster recover, etc).
>>
>> So from my example above only 1 connection would be active the other in
>> bind retry loop (wait X seconds, etc) - no tcp connection is established
>> to smsc. If we re-started kannel it wouldn't be a good idea to wait for
>> both links to become active before pushing messages out - this would
>> mean waiting for the upgraded smsc to come back online, no?
>>
>> Again sorry if I'm talking at cross purposes here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>> Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> If even 1 SMSc in configuration file fails to start, bearerbox will
>>> panic. There are several states to any SMSc, like connecting, going
>>> down, etc. Bearerbox expects all SMScs to be available on startup. The
>>> operative word is "available". If a configured modem is not connected,
>>> that's a failure and you would have to take it off configuration to
>>> startup.
>>>
>>> After it starts, SMScs can go up or down. Isolated mode still needs
>>> SMScs for outgoing messages. The only mode that doesn't is Suspended.
>>> But i don't think that even this will startup without all SMScs
>>> available.
>>>
>>> Available is different than Active. Available means anything but Failed
>>> (Dead,etc.). An available SMSc could be down, or coming up or connecting.
>>>
>>> In this patch, router will wait to start until all SMScs become active.
>>>
>>> What is DR?
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Nikos
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan McNatty" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>> stuck inqueue
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Nikos,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I haven't reviewed this whole thread in detail but was caught by
>>>> .. "bearerbox will not start unless all smscs are available." .. this
>>>> worried me a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I'm concerned that in a DR scenario if 1 connection is down (and not
>>>> coming up just yet) then I would like to be able to (re)start no problem
>>>> (the other connections would start with this one remaining down ..
>>>> trying to bind, etc). Is there not an alternative option in terms of
>>>> (from init.d/startup perspective) start isolated, allowing some time
>>>> (seconds) for the available connections to bind then setting the
>>>> connections to active. Or have I missed the point here.
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if I'm muddying the water. I will try and follow more closely.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Alvaro,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just managed to finish with my responsibilities, not on April 10, as
>>>>> I
>>>>> was hoping. Meanwhile, I haven't heard from you in a while, and I hope
>>>>> you are enjoying your vacations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a patch to gw/bearerbox.c and gw/bb_smscconn.c, that doesn't
>>>>> start the sms_router, until all smscs (except the FAKE) are ACTIVE. If
>>>>> I
>>>>> am not mistaken, bearerbox will not start unless all smscs are
>>>>> available. So this is inline with this philosophy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tested it to the extend that it doesn't break anything, please
>>>>> let me know if it solves your problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> Nikos
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>>> stuck inqueue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem. I undestand we are on a "best effort support XD" and this
>>>>> is not a critical issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> EnvΞ β€ Ξ’Βe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde
>>>>> cualquier
>>>>> celular y Nextel
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>>>>> aplicaciones 2
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>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/3/31 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alvaro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx for reminding me. Unfortunately I am still working very hard
>>>>>> on my
>>>>>> project. I will be finished by the 10th of April. Sorry about that
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> hope I am not causing you trouble. I put a reminder on my PC not to
>>>>>> forget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>; "kannel users"
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:17 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Had you chance to review this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EnvΠ�β€�Π’ΒΒe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>> hacia y desde
>>>>>> cualquier
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>>>>>> en el PerΠ�β€�Π�οΠ½, MΠ�β€�Π’Β©xico y en
>>>>>> mas de 180 paises. Use
>>>>>> aplicaciones 2
>>>>>> vias via
>>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
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>>>>>> www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/3/10 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am working on something very important right now. Could you give
>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>> in 2 weeks or so, if no one has addressed it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanx,
>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: "seikath" <[email protected]>; "kannel users" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:29 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for 1... still looking at data/logs... nothing so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for 2... You are right:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SMSC connections:
>>>>>>> id1 �’ �’ AT2[id1] (online 323s, rcvd 48, sent
>>>>>>> 48, failed 0,
>>>>>>> queued 265
>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>> id2 �’ �’ AT2[id2] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>> id3 �’ �’ AT2[id3] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>> id4 �’ �’ AT2[id4] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>> id5 �’ �’ AT2[id5] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All messages in queue for smsc-id "id_op1" were asigned to the 1st
>>>>>>> available smsc that has allowed-smsc=id_op1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not developer but think this behavior shall be modified so kannel
>>>>>>> will be able to maximize/optimize its resources available. Some sort
>>>>>>> of "recalculation of �’ the better route" for messages
>>>>>>> each x time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> y mensajes de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>>> hacia y desde
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are some heavy questions dude.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (1) SMS shoudn't get stuck like that so that they require restart.
>>>>>>>> Anything
>>>>>>>> in the logs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (2) I could speculate why this happens, but without looking at the
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>> code it would be guesswork. My guess would be that it involves the
>>>>>>>> timing
>>>>>>>> needed at startup to designate SMScs as active. Probably this is
>>>>>>>> done by
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> of configuration order (i.e. id1, id2, etc.). The first active one
>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> queue. Bearerbox router checks in every 30".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: "seikath" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "kannel users" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:41 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I'm using mysql for dlr storage since otherwise dlr are lost on
>>>>>>>> kannel restart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EnvΠ�οΠ½ Π�’В½e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de
>>>>>>>> Texto (SMS) hacia
>>>>>>>> y desde
>>>>>>>> cualquier
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:15 PM, seikath <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not aware of the store_tools.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I assume you use default kannel store file
>>>>>>>>> instead of db dlr storage, correct ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alvaro Cornejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi List
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've found the following 2 isues:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) I have several modems for the same operators 10 for op1 and 5
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> op2. For some reason, some messages get stuck into kannel queue
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> are not sent to smsc without restarting kannel. I've used Alex
>>>>>>>>>> store_tools and verify messages are in queue. All messages are
>>>>>>>>>> sent
>>>>>>>>>> using the same code and use AT-SMSCs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) When I restart kannel QUEUED messages are sent through only one
>>>>>>>>>> at-smsc even if messages have a destination smsc-id specified in
>>>>>>>>>> sendsms url call
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is an snippet of the config I have:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id1
>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id1,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id2
>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id2,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id3
>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id3,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id4
>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id4,id_op2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id5
>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id5,id_op2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note there is no smsc defined with smsc-id=id_op1 nor id_op2 in
>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When sending the messages I use &smsc-id=id_op1 or id_op2 into
>>>>>>>>>> url so
>>>>>>>>>> kannel load-balance through the smsc of corresponding operator and
>>>>>>>>>> send the message. This works fine until I restart kannel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After kannel reset, All QUEUED messages are sent through ONLY
>>>>>>>>>> ONE of
>>>>>>>>>> the smsc without load-balancing between smsc even though there are
>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of queued messages; however if, at the same time, I send
>>>>>>>>>> messages to any of the id_op1 or id_op2, this new messages are
>>>>>>>>>> correctly load-balanced between smsc-at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kannel bearerbox version `1.4.3'. Build `Feb 13 2009 17:32:59',
>>>>>>>>>> compiler `4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-13)'. System Linux,
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6, version #1 SMP Tue Jun 19 19:27:14 EDT 2007,
>>>>>>>>>> machine i686. IP 10.10.5.2. Libxml version 2.6.29. Using OpenSSL
>>>>>>>>>> 0.9.8b 04 May 2006. Compiled with MySQL 5.0.27, using MySQL
>>>>>>>>>> 5.0.27.
>>>>>>>>>> Using native malloc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> EnvΠ�οΠ½ Π�’В½e y Reciba Datos y mensajes
>>>>>>>>>> de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>>>>>> hacia y desde
>>>>>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>>>>>> en el PerΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Π’ , MΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Ξ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½Ξ Β²Ξ²β€
>>>>>>>>>> ¬Β°xico y en mas de 180
>>>>>>>>>> paises. Use
>>>>>>>>>> aplicaciones 2 vias
>>>>>>>>>> via
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>>>>>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alan McNatty, Wellington, New Zealand
>>>> Catalyst IT Limited <http://www.catalyst.net.nz/>
>>>> DDI: +64 4 8032201
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan McNatty, Wellington, New Zealand
>> Catalyst IT Limited <http://www.catalyst.net.nz/>
>> DDI: +64 4 8032201
>>
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