@Milan,

Actually, this is quite normal to reply *to* specific person and cc to list.
This is nothing new, and in fact this is default behavior of most email
clients unless specifically forced to do otherwise (which i see your email
client - mutt - does - but also probably forced to do so by configuration).

I *do* expect someone that addresses me in reply to put my address in the To
field.
I've resisted replying the previous time you brought up this point, but
since you're on it, i thought my 2 cents might add value as well ;)

@Nikos
Regarding style and indentation i tend to agree with Alejandro and Milan.
For better of for worse, all the Kannel code follows the same guidelines,
which we should adopt, because the project as a whole is more readable when
the code is structured the same way everywhere.

Regards,
  Konstantin

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Milan P. Stanic <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 00:56, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
> > [You should reply to me, Cc the list, so that it is obvious from the
> > headers, to whom it is addressed]
>
> Looks like you want to change the rules for mailing list too, not only
> coding style. ;)
>
> > Then I gather, from your own words that style is a collective
> > decision. But if you notice from the rest of kannel's code style has
> > changed several times since the beginning. Maybe the time has come
> > for another such change, if it benefits the community.
>
> Changing style could be done if the maintainers agree on that.
> But, even if the maintainer want to change style s/he should ask other
> developers if they agree on that. Maintainers of the free/open source
> software are not (usually) dictators (even if they sometimes called
> "benevolent dictators").
>
> If the developers or the community persuades maintainer to change rules
> it can be done, but I suspect that one developer could do that.
>
> > Of course noone can commit whatever he wants to the list, it is up
> > to the maintainer whether to accept it or not. And it is up to the
> > contributor, based on those rules, whether he will submit it or not.
>
> > BR,
> > Nikos
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milan P. Stanic"
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Patch: test/drive_smpp.c
> >
> >
> > >[ You shouldn't post replies to me. I'm subscribed to list ]
> > >
> > >On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 13:22, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
> > >>If styling rules are one man's decision, better be acceptable and to
> > >>a degree flexible, or they will deter contributors from submitting
> > >>work. Which contradicts open source philosophy.
> > >
> > >Styling rules are seldom one man's decision in free/open source. It is
> > >usually a consensus established during initial phase of the project and
> > >often copied from other successful projects.
> > >If everyone is allowed to add/insert personal style/preferences that
> > >leads to big mess and such code is hard to follow.
> > >
> > >Newcomers are expected to adopt to the established rules and style.
> > >
> > >I would like to see kannel in git repository and during discussion
> > >about switching to new VCS I had temptation to propose that but because
> > >I don't contribute code to kannel I resisted. I remember last Alex's
> > >message about matter and even started to write reply but after little
> > >thinking I ceased because I didn't like to disturb him with one useless
> > >mail.
> > >
> > >>Granted  kannel is in better shape than most other software, but
> > >>there is always room for improvement.
> > >
> > >Yes. I agree with you.
> > >And, I really appreciate your contribution to kannel.
> > >
> > >>BR,
> > >>Nikos
> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Milan P. Stanic"
> > >><[email protected]>
> > >>To: <[email protected]>
> > >>Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:52 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: Patch: test/drive_smpp.c
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 00:58, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
> > >>>>I am very sorry. My apologies for the missunderstanding. My
> > >>>>impression is that identation means replacing tabs with spaces and
> > >>>>aligning left text according to level. I see here that you are
> > >>>>actually asking about source code reformatting and even for a code
> > >>>>change. Some of the styling options that you ask, especially that
> > >>>>"if" statement, are unreadable by several people, including me.
> > >>>>Well, not exactly unreadable, but very difficult to read. And that
> > >>>>is a problem in the case of the author who is called to support it.
> > >>>>Who decided on this style anyway?
> > >>>
> > >>>In the free/open source software usually maintainers are those who set
> > >>>the rules and style.
> > >>>
> > >>>[ And usually (as is the case in kannel) these rules and style are far
> > >>> better than in commercial software ]
>
> --
> Kind regards,  Milan
>
>

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