On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:44:45AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 17.04.18 05:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize:
> > 
> > tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
> > installation (in %post), iff they are enabled in presets and the
> > system is live (not a chroot or such).
> > 
> > This would mean that e.g. after 'dnf install gpm' gpm would be running
> > when dnf exits.
> 
> Hmm. While many services make a ton of sense to just be started on
> install, for others this doesn't really apply... i.e. starting the
> smartcard stuff or gpm right-away makes sense, since they work
> out-of-the-box in a sensible, comprehensive way. This is very
> different for server stuff like httpd however, which is only vaguely
> useful unless configured by the admin to serve the data it's supposed
> to serve... Hence I am pretty sure there needs to some per-case
> deliberation in place.
> 
> That said, maybe Fedora's service preset files these days are
> carefully enough written and already formalize such deliberation?

Pfff. Yes they are. See 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices.

Zbyszek
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