On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:51 AM John M. Harris Jr. <joh...@splentity.com> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:28:31 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 9/10/19 11:01 PM, John M. Harris Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:54:50 AM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sure there are... from the change page:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "The i686 kernel is of limited use as most x86 hardware supports 64bit
> > >> these days. It has been in a status of "community supported" for several
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> > >> The lack of fixes for i686 kernels is slowing down all the other arches
> > >> that are supported (and thus all of fedora).
> > >
> > >
> > > The first sentence of that paragraph is simply incorrect, new hardware
> > > doesn't change what old hardware supports, nor does the availability of
> > > new hardware replace old hardware in itself.
> >
> >
> > It's not incorrect.  Almost all x86 hardware is 64-bit capable,
> > therefore building a 32-bit is of very limited use.  It is not easy to
> > find 32-bit only CPUs now.  Yes, I know some still exist; I have one
> > embedded in my wall (NSC Geode).  But the last paragraph is important.
> > Keeping the i686 kernel in Fedora is hurting everyone for the benefit of
> > an extremely small group of users.
>
> Again, it's completely false that "almost all x86 hardware is 64-bit capable".
> That may be true of newer hardware, but that does nothing to change existing
> hardware. The laptop I'm typing this email on right now is 32 bit only, by the
> way. It was manufactured in 2011.
>
> I also fail to see how keeping the i686 kernel "is slowing down all other
> arches that are supported", and I'd love to know why that's the case, so I can
> get to fixing it.
>

People offered to "get to fixing it" 2 years ago when this was first
proposed. They organized, started a SIG, and then crickets. Turns out
the fixing it takes continuous effort.  This isn't a one time thing,
it is issues that pop up regularly.
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