On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 08:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 09:45 +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote:
> > Adam Williamson wrote on Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800:
> > > I gotta say +1 too. I don't buy that there's a significant 'hardening'
> > > benefit worth all the effort mentioned in the Change *plus* the
> > > additional consequences Kevin and Martin pointed out. At minimum I'd
> > > like to see a much more convincing case that people are creating users
> > > without passwords without understanding what they're doing.
> > 
> > FWIW this has happened at an association I help at -- they had VMs with
> > no root password set, and users created by puppet some of whom have
> > sudo.
> > They just expected no root password = no login possible, but it turns
> > out 'su' just gave out a root shell with no password entered...
> 
> Uh. This sounds odd. How exactly did they do this? Making a root
> account with no password is not that easy; you can't do it
> interactively through anaconda, I don't even know if you can do it with
> a kickstart. So they figured out how to do it post-install but somehow
> didn't at the same time figure out what doing it means?

Never mind, I see this was answered already.
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