On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 07:37, Jan Grulich <jgrul...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I did some search again. It looks many other distributions (Ubuntu, Arch,
> Manjaro) have this issue as well. Users report this as a regression since
> kernel 4.2. Some suggested to disable swap, which makes this problem go away
> for them. I'm testing this right now and it seem to make significant
> difference. I tested this by copying bigger files to an usb stick. With swap
> enabled, my mouse freezes many times while copying. With swap disabled the
> freezes do not occur.
>

I have seen something like this happen in the past. I think it was
around Fedora 18? kernel time frame.. on certain Lenovo T440? if you
did a dd to a usb key, keyboard and mouse would be like you pointed
out. In fact any hardware actions on the same bus would be 'funny'. My
fuzzy memory for the reason is that the usb stick and keyboard/mouse
are generally on the same USB hub, and communication competes on a hub
for what happens. The kernel and hardware have to come to some sort of
agreement not to flood the bus but something in that kernel to improve
some other performance turned off that agreement. So if you did a lot
of disk io on certain hardware it would cause a lockup/spew. I fixed
my problem by accident when I got a laptop refresh which had a
different USB controller. Same kernel, same action, no problem. I
think in general the problem was fixed before Fedora 19.

The debugging I remember being asked to do at that time was:
Get the firmware/lspci data for the devices.. and see if there were
firmware updates (that fixed it for some other laptops back then). The
other problem took some time as the kernel people had to figure out
which cargo-cult god had to be appeased for it to work again.

> While it's not a perfect solution, it makes my life happier. Anyone else can
> confirm this?
>
> On čtvrtek 9. ledna 2020 12:41:22 CET you wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't know if anyone already asked about this, but since I upgraded to
> > Fedora 31, which had newer kernel than Fedora 30 back then, I started
> > experiencing annoying lags of the system. This can be now reproduced even
> > with Fedora 30 as they both have identical kernels. When this happens, my
> > mouse becomes unresponsive, when typing something I usually end up with
> > additional inserts of a character I typed, like buggggggg instead of bug
> > etc.
> >
> > This seems to be caused when there is higher usage of my SSD disk so this is
> > happening for example when copying files to an USB stick, when installing
> > something etc. I also seem to hit this more frequently when I have external
> > monitors attached to my laptop.
> >
> > It's likely this bug [1] [2], which has quite a lot of reporters and when I
> > did some searching back then, I found it's already fixed in newer kernel
> > releases. Problem is that the version where this is supposed to be fixed is
> > already the one we have in Fedora now and I can still experience it. There
> > are also some people complaining about this in fedora-kde mailing list [3].
> >
> > 1) Fedora 30 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761258[1]
> > 2) Fedora 31 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752146[2]
> > 3)
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org/t
> > hread/ UTJD7EWAD27SLBCWSXQFLJ2HIIPYFO62/[3]
> >
> > It's super annoying issue and many times it slows me down to do my work. Are
> > there other people experiencing this issue? Does anyone have any
> > recommendation what to try to solve this?
> >
> > My setup is Dell XPS 15 9570:
> > -  Intel Core i7 - 8750H
> > - UHD Intel 630
> > - NVidia GeForce GTX 1050 (not in use)
> > - 16 GB RAM
> > - NVME SK Hynix 512 GB SSD
> > - Dell TB16 dock + two external monitors
> > - BIOS updated to latest firmware
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > --------
> > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761258
> > [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752146
> > [3]
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org/t
> > hread/ UTJD7EWAD27SLBCWSXQFLJ2HIIPYFO62/
>
>
>
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