----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michal Konecny" <mkone...@redhat.com> > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:06:26 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > > On 02/04/2020 23:51, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > Paul Frields wrote: > > > > That statement rings hollow for me, when Github is arguably the single > biggest vendor of open source in the world, no part of itself is open > source, and thanks to its pervasiveness, open source has won the war > of how development should work. > Github shows that *proprietary centralized services* are winning the war > of how development should work. Gitlab is a smaller, competing, > proprietary centralized service. > > This trend is not in any way unique to software development. Pretty much > everything is being consolidated into centralized services governed by a > small number of corporate behemoths. Every new thing is launched as a > proprietary service that captures the market before anyone has a chance > to develop a decentralized competitor. Even those decentralized networks > that have existed since the Internet was young are now degenerating into > centralized services. The smaller players will continue to be bought by > bigger competitors until there are only one or two services in the world > for doing whatever you want to do. > There is plenty of decentralized open source solutions for plenty of services > [0]. Unfortunately not for git forge. Actually, I would say Pagure by having all project metadata in git as well (not just code but also issues, pull request review, etc.) it is the most decentralised forge at the moment as in, you can just pick up your project and put it to another Pagure instance without complicated data exporting and importing, which is more complicated by other forges generally holding project metadata in a centralized database.
> > Michal > > [0] - https://fediverse.party/ > > > > I speak only for myself but it seems to me that concern over this > ongoing centralization is why people are objecting to moving to Github > or Gitlab. > > Björn Persson > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an > email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > -- > Role: Fedora CPE Team - Software Engineer > IRC: mkonecny > FAS: zlopez > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
