On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:29:13 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> >> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes
> >> it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting
> >> booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which
> >> has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast
> >> 2005.
> > 
> > This is simply false. I'm currently writing this email on a ThinkPad X200
> > Tablet, which does not support UEFI. I can get dropping x86 support, but
> > dropping BIOS boot support?
> Such proposal would never be about stop supporting older hardware that's
> just a misconception people are getting
> And it's quite evident by the response here that hw that is atleast 2010
> and older is still quite happily being used and that hw does not support
> UEFI and no one is talking about taking that away anytime soon.
> The first step ( The actual change proposal ) would simply be about
> replace grub2 with sd-boot for UEFI strictly on the x86 architecture
> which has UEFI available and enabled ( is not using legacy bios ) and
> see what issue are encountered, solve those then consider moving to
> different architectures and further integration if relevant etc. ( baby
> steps ) Next I would suggest looking at UEFI supported ARM systems ( but
> I personally would have to obtain such hardware before doing so ).

Why do you prefer sd-boot over GRUB2? I don't understand how you'd boot from 
an SD card on most x86 hardware. ;)

Jokes aside, what's the call for the preference of even more systemd bloat? Do 
we not have enough yet?

John M. Harris, Jr.

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