I echo your views and agree with you completely. FOSS implementations should be used whenever available. - Ahmed Almeleh (Candidate for FESCo, the youngest of them.)
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 19:59, Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:06 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you > > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on > > gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge? > > > > Fedora Council has already effectively stated that dist-git > > infrastructure must remain open source, but has no such promises for > > src-git. I understand Council has previously stated that Fedora > > infrastructure should depend on proprietary software only if no open > > source alternative is suitable. Do you believe that there exist no open > > source git forges that would be suitable for Fedora src-git? > > > > The most obvious open source alternative would be the open source > > version of GitLab. There is also Pagure. I think we're giving up on > > open source infrastructure rather quickly here. I'd like to know what > > the candidates think before voting. > > > > Context: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-source-git/sig/issue/1 > > > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-council-and-the-git-forge/ > > Well, it's too late to have this as an official question on the > interview, but it doesn't hurt to ask. > I actually briefly mentioned this topic in my last interview for > FESCo, one year ago (last paragraph, the "open question"): > > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fesco-election-interview-with-fabio-valentini-decathorpe-4/ > > And since nothing has happened in this space, and my opinion has not > changed, I didn't want to just provide the same answer in this year's > interview again, but I can reiterate my opinion here, with a freshly > typed version: > > I think switching from a well-integrated, fully open-source solution > (pagure + pagure-dist-git) that was developed under the Fedora Project > umbrella to a proprietary solution from a vendor with an "open core" > business model is a bad idea, sends the wrong message to the FOSS > community, and should be avoided, if at all possible. Philosophical > issues aside, I also fear that switching out the "forge" would mean > losing integration with other Fedora services again. Some features > were lost when pkgdb2 was retired, but almost everything is now > available again in the pagure/pagure-dist-git UI or other places, and > switching to GitLab would mean reimplementing all those integrations > from scratch, using the GitLab API - and if I remember correctly, at > least some of the necessary features or APIs are only available in the > proprietary "Ultimate" tier of GitLab - which means either losing > features, or giving up on a FOSS solution, and neither should be > acceptable. > > TL;DR: I do not support switching to proprietary software, especially > if there's already a well-integrated FOSS alternative deployed to > production. > > I'm pretty sure I'm also "on the record" with that opinion since the > pagure / GitLab issue originally come up over a year ago, in both > mailing list archives and FESCo votes associated with this issue. :) > > Fabio > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >
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