On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 08:56:57AM -0000, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> > So… I understand why this default was chosen, but I think that it'd be 
> > better
> > to change the default to something narrow-but-reasonable, especially for
> > new users. If I'm new to Fedora, I probably wouldn't know about fmn and
> > it'd be hard to discover. But if I get even a few notifications, I'd be
> > aware of it. I think a default of at least "My events" sent to IRC/Matrix
> > would be reasonable.
> 
> That's very interesting. I think we could go this route but there are a few 
> things that need to be sorted out:
> - the old FMN is still running, so we'll need to wait until we turn it off so 
> that people don't get double notifications
> - we could add a default rule such as "my actions" for new users, but users 
> are only registering their email at account creation time, FMN won't know 
> about Matrix or IRC at that point
> - what about users who add a matrix / irc address later? Should it update the 
> default rule? But only for users who recently created an account?
> - some important apps are not using FMN, such as Bohdi, and external 
> applications. I'm afraid we may spam new users with duplicate notifications 
> that they do not expect.
> - the FMN notifications are still a bit rough around the edges, I'd be more 
> confident if we let the dust settle a little bit, and we sanitized duplicates 
> and incomplete messages before we enable it for new users by default
> 
> All this should be discussed in a ticket, do you mind opening one with your 
> proposal here [1] ?

FWIW, the old fmn listened for messages from fas2 that someone was added
to the 'packager' group and if so, it created them an account and a
default set of rules.

Perhaps we could do something similar here? 

ie, default most users to no rules, but have a default set for
packagers. 

But then we would have to decide what those default rules are.

Anyhow, just some data from what the old one did.

kevin

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