On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 08:04, Sérgio Basto <ser...@serjux.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-02-22 at 20:36 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:32 PM Sérgio Basto <ser...@serjux.com> > > > No. This is one of those many myths about the "Unix FHS". And it > > doesn't even matter much these days anyway, since most newer > > administrative tools don't install in sbin anyway. > > > > name it one , I'm not aware. > > Fedora old school (or just me I don't know ) don't use sudo , sudo is a > bad idea that came from Ubuntu and turn computer much more insecure , > sudo has been part of the Red Hat/Fedora family since Red Hat Linux 7.0 https://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.0/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/ (2000-09) and had been in powertools since at least 5.2 https://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/5.2/en/powertools/i386/ (1998-11). Both of those dates vastly predate Ubuntu. While they had been part of Debian before that they were included in Powertools in 5 due to requests for it being used on Unix systems which were being replaced with Red Hat Linux. [sudo was already a preferred tool in various university and corporate environments because it did allow for all kinds of policy decisions which were easily updated versus the standard at that time to make a chroot wrapper and control via group permissions. Many times these wrappers were the most insecure thing on a system. ] > since if a regular user is compromised the access to all computer is > much more easier . > https://xkcd.com/1200/ > And PATH at root user have sbin and PATH of regular user should not > have /sbin/ > > but checking we got this pearl in /etc/profile > > > if [ "$EUID" = "0" ]; then > pathmunge /usr/sbin > pathmunge /usr/local/sbin > else > pathmunge /usr/local/sbin after > pathmunge /usr/sbin after > fi > > There have been holy wars over /usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin for as long as I have been a systems administrator in the 1980's. Different schools of thought have their world view of when/who/how people should have access to it and it would be even split into which Unix you used because of what was needed to act per system. In the end, this choice tends to be deeply personal where each person assumes the world should follow their model and then get increasingly angry that is not the case. I have seen it create complete forks of an operating system due to needing to compile in such paths in various tools. > > -- > Sérgio M. B. > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren
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