On 2025-06-24 22:02, Florian Weimer wrote:
Are you suggesting to move RHEL 11 development away from Fedora/ELN to
CentOS Stream?  Wouldn't that be implied by this approach?

Not at all. My point was that if you want a platform to run experiments, the CentOS ISA SIG seems like a better fit, as it would give you more freedom to try things out. Changing things in ELN has a larger blast radius, and IMO it'd be best to do that once we're closer to a settled solution.

I think we should align the ELN build configuration with the current
plans for RHEL 11 instead.  Enabling frame pointers on x86-64 in ELN
when there is no such plan for RHEL has always been against ELN's
purpose to approximate a RHEL configuration.

For reference, frame pointers were enabled in ELN in https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/c/a65dee421c05707d6aaaed30ea5e19278422ea58 based on the discussion in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ODSVQKC2HHO5W3JD63DW3C53DG5WATUA/ with the plan to revisit things closer to RHEL 11 branching.

Cheers
Davide
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