* Davide Cavalca: > On 2025-06-24 22:02, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Are you suggesting to move RHEL 11 development away from Fedora/ELN to >> CentOS Stream? Wouldn't that be implied by this approach? > > Not at all. My point was that if you want a platform to run > experiments, the CentOS ISA SIG seems like a better fit, as it would > give you more freedom to try things out. Changing things in ELN has a > larger blast radius, and IMO it'd be best to do that once we're closer > to a settled solution.
It's an experiment only in the sense that all RHEL 11 development is experimental at this stage. >> I think we should align the ELN build configuration with the current >> plans for RHEL 11 instead. Enabling frame pointers on x86-64 in ELN >> when there is no such plan for RHEL has always been against ELN's >> purpose to approximate a RHEL configuration. > > For reference, frame pointers were enabled in ELN in > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/c/a65dee421c05707d6aaaed30ea5e19278422ea58 > based on the discussion in > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ODSVQKC2HHO5W3JD63DW3C53DG5WATUA/ > with the plan to revisit things closer to RHEL 11 branching. And new information has come up since then: enabling frame pointers produces completely different unwind information. As a result, a distribution built with frame pointers and SFrame does not give us much data whether a distribution built without frame pointers and SFrame could serve the same use cases. The SFrame work needs an x86-64 distribution built without frame pointers. Not having frame pointers is still the plan on record for RHELL 11. Why doesn't ELN match? Why should we build another distribution like ELN for RHEL 11 development? Thanks, Florian -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
