On Аўт, 26 жні 2025, Maxwell G wrote:
Aug 26, 2025 03:24:04 Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com>:

The package
still belongs to 'orphan' and none of the package maintainers received a
note about it.

They should eventually receive the "Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers" email where they are bcced.

However, gmail has a tendency to merge that email with the list email and that usually makes such email avoid the inbox :(

Hi everyone,

I don't use Gmail, but I've heard about this problem before, so it'd be good to try and workaround it. Would it be helpful if I sent a separate email that only had the affected maintainers BCCed and sent another one to the mailing list, so they're technically two separate emails and don't get merged by Gmail? The first one would still have Reply-to set to the mailing list, but replies might not get threaded properly since the first message was not also sent to the mailing list, but that trade off might be worth it.

I think it is a better approach than the current one.

Another idea is to write a script to send individual emails to each affected maintainer or SIG using the data at https://a.gtmx.me/orphans/orphans.json that says something along the lines of "Automation has determined that you co-maintain the following orphaned packages or that another package you maintain depends on them. <List of packages>. See <link to orphans report> report more information." That would be a project for less-busy Future Maxwell, but I think it could provide value.

If you do this, maybe it is better to tell that "A package %s you are
marked as a maintainer for, has got orphaned by their main administrator
%d weeks ago. The package is now owned by the 'orphan' user and will be
retired from Fedora in %d weeks. Please make sure to change main
administrator of your package to a valid Fedora packager before that. If
not done so, following packages will be under threat of orphaning as
well: ..."

This would give an actionable advice for the admins.

--
/ Alexander Bokovoy
Sr. Principal Software Engineer
Security / Identity Management Engineering
Red Hat Limited, Finland

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