On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 10:25:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-09-12 at 11:43 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > ~3700 individual updates hitting Bodhi over a short period is almost
> > certainly going to cause problems with the load, similar to trying to
> > manually create a single update with all the same packages.
> 
> I'm not really sure this is true. We get ~800 individual updates pretty
> quickly with the ELN mass rebuilds, and that works fine, AFAIK.
> 
> Bodhi is a reasonably sane webapp. Creating an update isn't an
> *excessively* onerous operation in it. I can't really think why it
> shouldn't be able to cope with creating 3700 relatively quickly.
> 
> I can imagine it might cause signing to get backed up, but then, that's
> a problem however we do this, isn't it? However you slice it, 3700
> packages need signing.

Well, if we do this in a named/releng created side tag we could also
setup things to sign as builds complete.

> It might back Fedora CI up a bit, I guess, since Fedora CI runs tests
> on every new update. But a 3700-package megaupdate would cause more or
> less the same load on Fedora CI I think (as it *mostly* tests at the
> package level, not the update level). Only bypassing Bodhi entirely
> would bypass Fedora CI.
> 
> openQA should be fine as it only tests critpath stuff, and much fewer
> than 3700 of the updates will be critpath.

ok, if you think the load will be acceptable then we can give it a try
that way. I still think a sidetag would be better (for the signing if
nothing else), but either way...

kevin
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