On Friday, 30 October 2026 12:32:20 Central European Standard Time Stephen J 
Smoogen wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2026, at 07:19, Florian Weimer via devel wrote:
> 
> > * Simon de Vlieger:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026, at 6:47 PM, Florian Weimer via devel wrote:
> >> 
> >>> The upstream Rust security team has not documented that Rust is safe to
> >>> use in SUID binaries, and the standard library (and therefore most
> >>> crates) do not take this special operating environment into
> >>> consideration.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Aside from the dependencies; do languages for current SUID binaries
> >> document
 that they are safe to use in SUID contexts? Seems like a funky
> >> hurdle to impose. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > It's documented for the C library.  Not in glibc manual, but for example
> > in Garfinkel and Spafford, Partical UNIX and Internet Security.  The
> > second edition has an entire chapter, Writing Secure SUID and Network
> > Programs.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> That edition of the book is also older than many people writing Rust
> programs. The third and last edition is from 2003. I don't know what is in
> 2nd edition but third edition tips are at
> https://archive.org/details/practical_unix_and_internet_security-0596003234
> /page/516/mode/2up 
 
> Frankly I put this above "It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing
> cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware
> of the Leopard.'" but not a lot more. Unless there is something similar in
> the glibc manual, or similar areas.. how is anyone in general going to know
> how to properly deal with suid/sgid or similar items?

I would argue I know a thing or two about set(res)uid/set(res)gid as I wrote
https://gitlab.com/cwrap/uid_wrapper

And usermode has tests using uid_wrapper (and nss_wrapper and pam_wrapper).

> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Florian
> >
> >
> >
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