On Fri, 2026-10-30 at 07:32 -0400, Stephen J Smoogen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2026, at 07:19, Florian Weimer via devel wrote:
> > * Simon de Vlieger:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2026, at 6:47 PM, Florian Weimer via devel wrote:
> > > > The upstream Rust security team has not documented that Rust is
> > > > safe to
> > > > use in SUID binaries, and the standard library (and therefore
> > > > most
> > > > crates) do not take this special operating environment into
> > > > consideration.
> > > 
> > > Aside from the dependencies; do languages for current SUID
> > > binaries document
> > > that they are safe to use in SUID contexts? Seems like a funky
> > > hurdle to
> > > impose. :)
> > 
> > It's documented for the C library.  Not in glibc manual, but for
> > example
> > in Garfinkel and Spafford, Partical UNIX and Internet Security. 
> > The
> > second edition has an entire chapter, Writing Secure SUID and
> > Network
> > Programs.
> > 
> 
> That edition of the book is also older than many people writing Rust
> programs. The third and last edition is from 2003. I don't know what
> is in 2nd edition but third edition tips are at
> https://archive.org/details/practical_unix_and_internet_security-0596003234/page/516/mode/2up
>  
> 
> Frankly I put this above "It was on display in the bottom of a locked
> filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door
> saying 'Beware of the Leopard.'" but not a lot more. Unless there is
> something similar in the glibc manual, or similar areas.. how is
> anyone in general going to know how to properly deal with suid/sgid
> or similar items?

It is not like putting this search in duckduckgo: "is there some
documentation no how to write safe suid programs in unix ?" came up
with zero results ...

Best,
Simo.

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