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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:13:51 -0400
Josh Boyer <jwbo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Dennis Gilmore <den...@ausil.us>
> wrote:
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> > On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:58:11 -0700
> > Brendan Conoboy <b...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 04/03/2012 09:07 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >> >  From a koji perspective, there really isn't much benefit to
> >> > step 2. What needs to happen is the RPMs from the secondary hub
> >> > need to be copied to the primary in the correct NVR directories
> >> > in the hub's storage.  That can happen in the background for
> >> > quite a bit, but at some point the hub would need to be taken
> >> > offline to sync up the last few builds, and then switch the
> >> > builders over.
> >> >
> >> > Having a staging hub just means you have to copy and move the
> >> > builders twice.  This is mostly due to how koji builders can only
> >> > talk to one hub at a time and one hub only.
> >>
> >> Where do you envision the builders being in this scenario?  I see
> >> the steps being something like this:
> >>
> >> 1. SA builders and/or hub are located outside PHX.
> >> 2 option a. Builders come up in PHX, hub stays in original
> >> location. 2 option b. Staging hub comes up in PHX, builders stay
> >> in original location. 3. Both staging hub and builders come up in
> >> PHX 4. When appropriate move from staging hub to primary hub.
> >
> > As i see it the Secondary arch will continue to run as normal.
> > we will get new build hardware for use in PHX,  it will be brught up
> > and added to koji behind the scenes we will be importing the
> > matching
> 
> Who is "we" in this scenario.  It's the responsibility of the SA team
> to provide hardware for builders, and I don't see promotion to PA as
> grounds for someone other than the SA team purchasing it.  Basically,
> "we" here should not be "the Fedora project".
> 
> josh

We would be releng importing the binaries into the primary koji.
Hardware procurement would be done to infrastructure specifications.
with support contracts, remote management etc. as to who buys it? I
would hope that the secondary arch team could negotiate donations from
vendors. since the arch would be growing and the vendors would want it
to be used as a selling point. Builder hardware today is all provided
by purchases by Red Hat, the last builder hardware was purchased by Red
Hat IT and the koji storage was a mixture of Release Engineering and
Red Hat IT. I really don't care who pays for the hardware, just that we
have hardware that meets the requirements for being in the colo.
ongoing hardware costs will likely be from one of Fedora engineering,
Release engineering or Red Hat IT's budget.

Dennis
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