Am 22.09.2014 um 21:05 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 22.09.2014 um 21:00 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
>> On 09/22/2014 06:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> # Log systemd-logind to /var/log/secure
>>> :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind"             -/var/log/secure
>>> :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" stop
>>> :msg, contains, "Starting Session" stop
>>> :msg, contains, "Started Session" stop
>>> :msg, contains, "Stopping Session" stop
>>> :msg, contains, "Stopped Session" stop
>>>
>>
>> And the problem that was stuck between your chair and your keyboard exist no 
>> more so congratulation finally being
>> able to consult upstream --> rsyslog <-- documentation after being spoon 
>> feed several examples on how this could be
>> accomplished
> 
> please refrain from responses if you don't understand what people
> are talking about - the above *do not have any effect on the crap
> below* except two lines out of a lot
> 
> i only posted that above to heal you from your arrogance about
> read rsyslog and that a decent admin knows rsyslog filters
> 
> NOTHING OF THE FLLOD BELOW CAN BE CATCHED THAT WAY
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368
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and the next time don't remove the relevant part *before* what
you quote or at least read it before strip, not that nobody
can read the whole post but your quoting style is abusive

BTW. you still refuse to understand that produce that lot
of messages *is wrong* in *non-debugging* mode

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of 
polarity and resistance
Datum: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:17:38 +0200
Von: Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net>
Antwort an: Development discussions related to Fedora 
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An: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Am 22.09.2014 um 19:51 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 22.09.2014 um 19:37 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
>> You know as well as I do that we will not alter the priority label on 
>> messages sent from the program based on
>> administrators inability to come up with filters in rsyslog.

to be precise the "capable administrator" wrote way too much such
rules in the past just because systemd, but that ones laking
a simple "user-session" in the message to define clear what
should go to a own file

the same time ignorant and abusive people like you call
other incompetent could be used to just make the messages
clear, a part of that over the time growing amount of
messages notify about the same what crond anyways do
can be filtered - the rest not really

 # Log systemd-logind to /var/log/secure
:programname, isequal, "systemd-logind"             -/var/log/secure
:programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" stop
:msg, contains, "Starting Session" stop
:msg, contains, "Started Session" stop
:msg, contains, "Stopping Session" stop
:msg, contains, "Stopped Session" stop
____________________________________________________________________

the crap below is *not* filterable and it would be *easy*
to start any of this entries with "systemd-user" for
upstream


Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopping Default.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopped target Default.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopping Basic System.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopped target Basic System.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopping Paths.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopped target Paths.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopping Timers.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopped target Timers.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopping Sockets.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Stopped target Sockets.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Starting Shutdown.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Reached target Shutdown.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Starting Exit the Session...
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1378]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 1407 
(kill).
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping user-0.slice.
Mar 15 08:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Removed slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting user-0.slice.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Created slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Paths.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Paths.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Timers.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Timers.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Sockets.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Sockets.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Basic System.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Basic System.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Default.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Default.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Startup finished in 9ms.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopping Default.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopped target Default.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopping Basic System.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopped target Basic System.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopping Paths.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopped target Paths.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopping Timers.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopped target Timers.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopping Sockets.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Stopped target Sockets.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Shutdown.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Reached target Shutdown.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Starting Exit the Session...
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1416]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 1445 
(kill).
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping user-0.slice.
Mar 15 09:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Removed slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting user-0.slice.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Created slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Paths.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Paths.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Timers.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Timers.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Sockets.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Sockets.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Basic System.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Basic System.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Default.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Default.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Startup finished in 11ms.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopping Default.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopped target Default.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopping Basic System.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopped target Basic System.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopping Paths.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopped target Paths.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopping Timers.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopped target Timers.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopping Sockets.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Stopped target Sockets.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Shutdown.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Reached target Shutdown.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Starting Exit the Session...
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1454]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 1483 
(kill).
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping user-0.slice.
Mar 15 10:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Removed slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting user-0.slice.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Created slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Paths.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Paths.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Timers.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Timers.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Sockets.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Sockets.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Basic System.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Basic System.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Default.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Default.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Startup finished in 10ms.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopping Default.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopped target Default.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopping Basic System.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopped target Basic System.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopping Paths.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopped target Paths.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopping Timers.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopped target Timers.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopping Sockets.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Stopped target Sockets.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Shutdown.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Reached target Shutdown.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Starting Exit the Session...
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1491]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 1520 
(kill).
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping user-0.slice.
Mar 15 11:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Removed slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Created slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Paths.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Paths.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Timers.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Timers.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Sockets.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Sockets.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Basic System.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Basic System.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Default.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Default.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Startup finished in 10ms.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopping Default.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopped target Default.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopping Basic System.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopped target Basic System.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopping Paths.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopped target Paths.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopping Timers.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopped target Timers.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopping Sockets.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Stopped target Sockets.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Shutdown.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Reached target Shutdown.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Starting Exit the Session...
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1528]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 1557 
(kill).
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 0.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Stopping user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:01:01 rawhide systemd[1]: Removed slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1]: Created slice user-0.slice.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 0...
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Starting Paths.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Reached target Paths.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Starting Timers.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Reached target Timers.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Starting Sockets.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Reached target Sockets.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Starting Basic System.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Reached target Basic System.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Starting Default.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Reached target Default.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1582]: Startup finished in 9ms.
Mar 15 12:38:56 rawhide systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.

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