2016-01-14 18:05 GMT+01:00 Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> > wrote: > > > > Am 14.01.2016 um 16:56 schrieb Neal Gompa: > >> > >> I've recently been wondering why we haven't allowed kernel module > >> packages in Fedora since Fedora 8. I've tried searching through our > >> wiki and the mailing list, but I haven't come up with any concrete > >> reasons for why we disallow them. > >> > >> If it is perhaps the issue of keeping things in sync with kernels we > >> provide (that is, maintainers didn't/couldn't keep up with new kernels > >> being pushed during a release cycle), then I think the situation has > >> changed. > >> > >> We have two tools that can help us in this regard: akmod and Koschei, > >> both came after our policy change to disallow kernel modules. > > > > > > akmod is a dirty hack and fails often enough for rpmfusion stuff > > > > additionally you should *never* need GCC and devel packages installed on > a > > normal enduser system for a ton of reasons > > The most common reason that akmod fails is the same reason dkms often > fails: the correct kernel-devel isn't installed. For whatever reason, > there's no logic in DNF to handle this case properly. Of course, to be > fair, this problem happens in Yum too, but since Yum isn't actively > supported in Fedora anymore, it's not as much of a concern. >
Maybe this particular concern can be addressed in DNF with a plugin ? The way I've previously worded a possible solution is to have a yum/dnf plugin for akmod. This plugin will select the appropriate kernel-devel based on the kernel that is currently installed. ( https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3386 ). But this dnf plugin can be useful by default in fedora, since the kernel-devel issue can rise when one user install a particular development group where kernel-devel is needed. (user typically ends with kernel-debug-devel instead of the one for their kernel variant that can also be kernel-lpae or else). - Nicolas
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