On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott - I don't need to bring the specter of drug abuse and mental > incompetency into an argument in order to tell someone that I strongly > disagree with them and that their position and demeanor are increasing > my frustration.
You're right. Bert, I understand your position, but let me assure you there is no hidden anti-etoys faction at OLPC! I apologize for being so short with you. > Dennis - in search of a quick defense, you've attempted to give certain > critics exactly what they asked for - a Joyride with no activities - in > order to let them crack their teeth on the barren fruits of their own > uncompromising positions. No, I think Dennis did the right thing. Once people install activities in /home/olpc for 703, the activities in joyride are not used anyway. Let's be consistent here. The only reason we didn't before was that I was lazy. I look forward to people writing a simple "install activities" script for joyride, or if they get ambitious they can have a go at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_updater#Application_updater . A little script would certainly be appropriate to include in joyride. It would have been included in 703, but time constraints did not permit it. > could each of you please decide to search for less combative ways to > express your frustration at revisiting old conflicts? (If I can be of Well, if Bert would prefix his remarks with, "I know that Scott says that there's no anti-etoys agenda, but..." then at least I'd know he was listening to me. =) I'd be willing to add, "I know that Bert thinks there's an anti-etoys agenda, but..." to my responses, if that makes him feel better. ;-) I feel this discussion has been very fruitful! The joyride and olpc3 branches have been sync'ed up with 703 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6966 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2064. Further, much attention has been focused on our need for an activity updater, so hopefully we'll get some help writing that. --scott ps. SJ, there are no 'core activities' that we ship. There is only one security-privileged activity (Journal), which we currently ship in the core build because (a) Sugar breaks otherwise, and (b) Rainbow's activity-signing stuff is incomplete. I hope we can fix both of these in time, and stabilize the APIs enough that we can eventually unbundle even Journal. Your notion of 'core activity' is probably worthwhile for support and documentation reasons, but it bears no relation to the build process. -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
