On 18 May 2008, at 04:45, Eben Eliason wrote: > This is actually a very promising idea indeed. I think this merits > some exploration for sure, and save the delay miraculously pleasing > everyone, something we should definitely try in the near future. > Someone mentioned this could be hard without compositing, but we can > certainly just toss up a (frame-colored) 75px square window in the > appropriate corner (or all of them?). > > Another interesting addition to this idea would be to turn the corners > of the Frame itself into "retract" buttons. If someone chose (and we > still support) instant corner activation one /did/ accidentally invoke > the Frame, a quick click would send it happily back off screen. I > offer this mostly as an addition to your suggestion, though, since it > could be a nice reciprocal action. Eg. move to the corner and see the > frame icon with an arrow pointing "into" the screen, and click it to > reveal the frame; instantly see the arrow reverse to point "out of" > the screen, and click again to hide. Thoughts?
Yes, this has promise I think (and there's even a set of corner frame arrows kicking around from old joyride build). A couple of random thoughts: - Do the 'frame reveal corner arrows' only appear when you hit the corners, or when your mouse is over the corner area (discoverability)? - If you're dragging something to an object in the frame (could be to clipboard, or content to a user icon for sharing a document etc) does the frame revert to auto reveal (you're dragging so can't click)? If it auto reveals when dragging it could still appear unintentionally (but I guess a low probability once the twitchy track pad gets fixed). - A simple check of 'is mouse down and in corner' would probably be too simplistic as a paint/draw type activity would likely often trigger the frame unintentionally. Would need to be a click or a mouse known to be dragging an object. > Agreed that an attempt at a fix has taken too long. You're also > rightthat the frame is in several ways experimental. Hot-corners have > certainly been used in other places (I admit, I use them in OSX all > the time), but never (as far as I know) made mandatory. Yes, I use them in OSX all the time also, however I soon added a key constraint so I have to hold the Command key + hit a specific corner. Without that I was always accidently triggering Expose or the Dashboard and momentarily wondering where everything went. Having to hold a key down also seems to provide some mental/tactile action reinforcement - panning an image while holding space seems such a natural action (Photoshop, Preview with an image) when you compare it to having to select a specific 'hand' tool first (Preview with a PDF, Grapher). Looking forward to the day that the grab keys start to work for panning ;-) It's a pity the current frame key is in such a distant place, having a key on the bottom row that you hold to reveal the frame (and/or press once to toggle) would have likely solved a number of issues. --Gary _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel