sebastian wrote: > Or you can just yum install xfce* and work your way to nirvana from there. > > Sebastian
indeed. this is how i run my G1G1. A simple "Do you want to run sugar?" dialog that runs from .xsession determines which manager i run. what i've never done is make XFCE "nice" -- and it's kind of clunky feeling right out of the box. paul > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > >> Here's a delicate scenario that I see: > >> Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running > >> Windows for evaluation (this is happening *right now*) - MMSs (that > >> is, Microsoft&Ministries) will argue not only on GNU+Linux vs. Windows > >> technical merits, but also the GUI will come up as a possible fatal > >> comparison. > >> So techies will then install XFCE for comparison, perhaps they'll > >> request F10 for that... > >> Only XFCE is currently vanilla on the repositories and fancy > >> integration like volume and brightness, DPI, etc isnt well integrated > >> at all by default, as well as many useful separate widgets for > >> networking, battery status and so on. > >> Its funny: In this scenario, you can actually share more on windows > >> (via file sharing) than on linux (at least with the gui). > >> So here's an idea Homunq gave us yesterday: > >> This is the perfect project for a G1G1 hacker. Probably one already > >> did it. Lets challenge them, via OLPCNews, to release "pimp up xfce on > >> F9" procedures (maybe even scripts and themepacks) - so that it is as > >> simple and as trouble free to install a working, beautiful, lean and > >> mean XFCE4 on the NAND that we can proudly compare with sluggish > >> windows on the SD. > >> Please could we request this to wayan and spread it? > > > > the biggest problem has been in getting started (getting a system > > image that could boot and use the normal distro tools) > > > > debxo is a good example of a bootstrap for debian, it is a set of > > scripts that use the standard distro package tools to create a system > > image that they can boot into and start tweaking. what it's missing is > > a good way to let the users extract the results of their tweaks to > > submit upstream. > > > > if you want the type of work you are looking for to happen on Fedora > > someone needs to package up a similar set of scripts. > > > > > > > >> 2008/12/5 Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> Carlos wrote (regarding Sugar on an XO): > >>>> > >>>> Apps need to be sugarized. > >>> > >>> This is true when Sugar is the primary interface of the target user > >>> population. But the "Subject" of this topic is XFCE. I am going to > >>> make the assumption that an user sophisticated enough to use XFCE > >>> will be sophisticated enough not to need the simplified GUI that > >>> sugarization provides. > >>> > >>> I myself have had reasonable success installing Linux applications > >>> on my XO, then launching them from the command line. [And launching > >>> from Terminal bypasses Rainbow's restrictions on applications.] > >>> > >>> I keep wondering, considering Moore's Law and the availability of > >>> netbooks, why shoehorn specifically Sugar (and the XO) into > >>> competing for the "traditional_Linux_interface" laptop role ? > >>> > >>> mikus > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Devel mailing list > >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org > >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =--------------------- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] give one laptop, get one laptop --- http://www.laptop.com/xo _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel