On 29.12.2009, at 01:47, NoiseEHC wrote: > > >> Ahem. With XO-1.5, I feel that I AM shipping a "full-fledged Linux >> PC" to every child. >> Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host >> an IDE ? >> >> My point still stands: until Android supports its own development >> tools, you are >> turning it's users into second class citizens. > Ahem. So you have installed Eclipse under Sugar and somehow developed > and debugged a Sugar application what is nice... Wait! You did not! > > So if we just ignore your Straw Man argument (you know what I have said > that you need GBs or RAM to run the dx optimizer tool, not the IDE), the > problem is still there that you only can run an usable development > environment on a full Linux distro and you cannot even develop Sugar > applications with it. > > For the other people talking about IDEs: an usable IDE is not a text > editor. The whole problem stems from the simple fact that you think that > an IDE is just a text editor. While it is possible to develop > applications even with ed (I used mcedit myself), I would rather poke my > eyes out than to try to develop anything with Pippy again. What you do > not want to recognize is that you are excluding a lot of developers who > do not want to waste their time because of the lack of IDEs. In other > words: because of resource constraints you have not made contributing > code easy so you have resource constraints now.
Are you aware the XO ships a full Smalltalk IDE? You know, like VisualAge which later became Eclipse? It's "hidden" in the Etoys activity, but (surprise!) it's a kids laptop. The software is designed for learning. *That* is what Sugar was created for, which is not at all what Android was created for, as you claimed when starting this discussion. - Bert - _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
