On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

>> >http://www.advogato.org/person/mharris/
>> >
>> >There are allot of interesting comments here by Mike,
>> >particularly his interest in forking XFree86 and creating his
>> >own work.
>>
>> You seem to have some deep misconceptions.  The only things I've
>> mentioned on there are my decision to branch the Radeon driver
>> and to contribute stuff back to the XFree86 project.  How that is
>> seen as a fork of the entire project, I'm unsure.  I'll be the
>> first to admit that I'd be completely unable to fork the entire
>> XFree86 project on my own, and that it would be a very large
>> amount of work without any guaranteed gains in return.
>>
>
>Actually, there is a fork of XFree already - in dri.sf.net and another one
>of ati driver only in gatos.sf.net.
>
>One more wouldn't hurt, but Mike - why do you want to fork Radeon driver ?

Sorry to mix terminology in what some might feel is pedantical, 
however the term "branch" the Radeon driver seems more 
appropriate than fork, although it is possible I may have myself 
used the term fork somewhere.  Branch is much more accurate, as I 
believe the term "fork" means something more hostile and ill 
intentioned, and "branch" means concurrant development which gets 
merged back to the trunk.

I don't however have access to making a branch in XFree86 CVS,
and I know better than to ask for one frivolously, as David has
explained how useless the quality of code I generate is, I take 
that to be indicative that my chances of getting CVS write 
priveledge to XFree86.org is quite low in the future, if ever.
I don't however take offense, as the DRI project doesn't have 
access either, and they are a number of very talented people too.

I do want to make ATI's contributed code available in a useable 
form to ATI users as soon as possible once ATI or someone else 
provides useful patches to the open source community however, and 
nobody is currently providing that to the community.  I believe I 
can fulfil that role however until CVS catches up.  Just takes a 
bit of time to do the work that's all.

You don't have CVS write access, however you've managed to put
together a successful driver yourself too, which makes me a bit
curious why GATOS has remained a separate (and rather succesful)
project from XFree86.org for so long.  I've never chatted with 
you before about it I don't believe, but I've often wondered why 
GATOS has never been integrated into XFree86 or DRI.  It's useful 
as is nonetheless, but it'd be great to see such developmental 
efforts get incorporated into XFree86's main codebase so more 
users could benefit from one-driver-does-it-all so to speak.

My assumption has been all along that you've had difficulty 
getting others to look into merging your changes, and decided it 
was easier to maintain your own codebase entirely than to twist 
people's arms to look at your code and provide feedback.  I guess 
now would be a good time for me to just ask.  ;o)

So.. any chance of GATOS getting into XFree86?  ;o)

I know ATI users would absolutely love this functionality, and I 
would too.

Any comments, feedback, appreciated.

Thanks,
TTYL

-- 
Mike A. Harris


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