MK> i don't follow this line of argument.  that kaleb guy said x.org was
MK> going to
MK> freedesktop and you think that's the solution?  no que comprende.

I understand it can be a little bit confusing if you don't have the
background.  All that follows is my private perception, and doesn't
represent an official XFree86 opinion.

Kaleb is a respected X11 wizard.  While I do not know who is or used
to be his employer, for as long as I can remember he has appeared to
be close the the ``official'' guardians of the X11 standard -- used to
be The Open Group, is X.Org right now.  (I don't know whether this was
already the case in the MIT X Consortium days.)

Our relations with TOG were more or less non-existent, especially
after the X11R6.4 licensing debacle; Kaleb was, I believe, the one
person close to TOG we would sometimes have a chat with.  When TOG
gave up the X11 stewardship and X.Org was created, we were hoping to
establish a more healthy relationship with them.

This hope was abandoned when we actually tried to get them to
standardise something we had done -- we were ignored for a year, and
then flamed to death for distributing the very extension that had been
ignored.  (You will find the flamewar archives if you google for
``UTF8_STRING precipitously''.)

Kaleb, I hope I didn't mis-represent anything.

                                        Juliusz

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