Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
KK> As I indicated to you previously on xfree86-forum, you should be
KK> hearing something before very long

Oh good. So they aren't irrelevant at all.

I wouldn't say irrelevant - they are still the official keeper of the
standards recognized by many companies and organizations, including the
LSB & UNIX standards. I would allow that their standards process has been
very inefficient and unworkable to anyone not actively represented on whichever
task force is working on the standard. I believe Mark Vojkovich was actively
involed in the Xinerama standardization, but that has been stalled in the final
stages for a long time. We got IPv6 support done because Sun and several other
members committed to making it happen (and even there we've gone much slower
than we hoped for). Unfortunately, while David Dawes represents XFree86 on the
Executive Board, I don't know of any active XFree86 developers on the Architecture Task Force, which discusses updates to the core standard itself.
(At least on the conference calls, I hear people from HP, IBM, SGI, Sun, and TOG, but don't remember ever hearing anyone not from one of the members.)
That's where we've been discussing the IPv6 changes and where I presume the
UTF8_STRING changes would be discussed. (There is theoretically an i18n task
force, but I don't think it's active since no one's given them anything to talk
about.)


While it's not widely advertised, anyone can join one of the X Task Forces and
participate - unfortunately, the web page on the X.org site about this is currently a cruel joke since it simply tells you to contact the task force
chair to join, but gives absolutely no clue how to find out how to contact
them (with two exceptions, one of which points to someone who hasn't been
the Xinerama task force chair for about a year now).


Of course, most of this is on the verge of becoming irrelevant, because even
X.org realizes how ineffective it had become and is reorganizing.  Some of this
came out of the early discussion on the forum list and talks that have gone on
since then to reform X.org to actively encourage participation from anyone who
is interested.  As Kaleb noted, they are pushing hard to get this done ASAP.

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         User Experience Engineering: G11N: X Window System


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