> On Apr 5, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Jorgen Lundman <lund...@lundman.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I agree, and "zpool labelclear" is going to clear the label.
>> 
>> "zpool labelclear" is not going to overwrite something that isn't a zpool
>> label, in part because I haven't heard any use case for it.
> 
> Wonderful, and the situation where there is just enough of a ZFS label that
> "zpool add" and "zpool attach" refuses to work, because there is a pool
> there; but not enough of a ZFS label for labelclear to work? This situation
> is frustrating.

zpool create, add, and attach have '-f' options to override, at least on 
Solaris/illumos.
There is no need for zpool labelclear in this case. IMHO, labelclear is almost
entirely a developer/tester use case, where quickly getting back to 
uninitialized 
state is desirable prior to running more tests.

> 
> Now the labelclear conversation is somewhat nit-picking, what is far more
> important to us is https://www.illumos.org/issues/6477 
> <https://www.illumos.org/issues/6477>
> This problem has already blown away users' existing ZFS pools, AND a user's
> unrelated HFS filesystem. It worries me :) At the moment we are considering
> removing "cache" support on O3X until we can find a solution.

agree
Although we should not train people to always use -f, which is effectively what
people are advocating. There is a damn good reason not using -f should fail.
 -- richard

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