Hi All,

I'm very familiar with the argument that we should do a two pictures
comparison: in fact essentially everyone in mySociety seems to be
against me on this - trust me, I feel the heat.

In the first instance I leaned away from pairwise because a) it
doesn't show you how good your prediction skills are compared with
other players b) I thought it would take more plays than my spec to to
get 217k images usable ratings. Can someone mathematical tell me how
many 'plays' of a pairwise game it would take to get any useful
results (according to any definition of useful you choose)? I am no
mathmo and might have got this quite wrong.

I didn't stop Harry half way through development and make him dump
what he'd done so far particularly because I don't think that either
my argument or the other side is especially strong when it comes to
confidently assessing which one will be played more, leaving aside the
quality of the outputs, or the number of plays required to get a
useful dataset. Yes, Kittenwar is hugely successful, but so was
HotOrNot. In an ideal world we'd conversion track players arriving at
the homepage of the game, 50% given out of 10, 50% given pairwise, but
that'd take ££.

FYI  2,916 grid squares have been done (ie rated at least 3 times) so
far, of 217k in the database. That's 1.34% of total,  over one weekend
with no publicity and without the developer even being happy with the
state of the game. Is that good or bad - not sure.

best,

Tom






2009/4/6 Harry Metcalfe <[email protected]>:
> Hi Keith,
>
> That's up to Tom -- I am a mere minion :)
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:01 +0100, Keith Garrett wrote:
>> 2009/4/3 Harry Metcalfe <[email protected]>:
>> > http://games.mysociety.org/scenic/
>>
>> I agree with the other comments about it being hard to
>> rate when you have nothing to compare it too. Lost
>> interest very quickly (I ended up rating more on
>> Kittenwar after someone mentioned that). I think a two
>> image selection like that would work much better.
>>
>> Keith.
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