On 18/05/2010 08:25, Seb Bacon wrote:
HI,

On 18 May 2010 08:00, Francis Davey<[email protected]>  wrote:

Example: football fixtures lists aren't subject to a database right
(because the league doesn't have to expend much effort on verifying or
obtaining them since they have them already as part of running the
league, but they do get copyright because there's creative
intellectual effort involved in putting them together (so the High
Court was convinced).

I'm quite ill at the moment so I have no idea whether what I am saying
makes sense, but hopefully it does.

Yup, makes sense.

I was wondering about this football fixtures thing.  What if, once a
week, I asked 20 fans (one for each premiership team) when their next
team's fixture is, and put that into a database?

Presumably then I'm assembling a new database of facts myself?

Yes, but that's not relevant in this case because, as Francis says, it isn't the database right which is at issue. What matters here is that the fixture list *copy*right belongs to the league, and copyright is still infringed even if the content is obtained via one or more intermediaries.

Mark

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