On 18 May 2010 10:43, Mark Goodge <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 18/05/2010 08:25, Seb Bacon wrote:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> On 18 May 2010 08:00, Francis Davey<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Example: football fixtures lists aren't subject to a database right
>>> (because the league doesn't have to expend much effort on verifying or
>>> obtaining them since they have them already as part of running the
>>> league, but they do get copyright because there's creative
>>> intellectual effort involved in putting them together (so the High
>>> Court was convinced).
>>>
>>> I'm quite ill at the moment so I have no idea whether what I am saying
>>> makes sense, but hopefully it does.
>>
>> Yup, makes sense.
>>
>> I was wondering about this football fixtures thing.  What if, once a
>> week, I asked 20 fans (one for each premiership team) when their next
>> team's fixture is, and put that into a database?
>>
>> Presumably then I'm assembling a new database of facts myself?
>
> Yes, but that's not relevant in this case because, as Francis says, it isn't
> the database right which is at issue. What matters here is that the fixture
> list *copy*right belongs to the league, and copyright is still infringed
> even if the content is obtained via one or more intermediaries.

I find that quite interesting, and quite strange.  If I'm going to see
my team play next week, and I mention this fact in my blog, is that
infringement of copyright?  Or is that covered by fair use?

I find it hard to get my head around where something stops being a
fact and starts being something else.

Seb

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