Simon Groenewolt wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I do like the idea of moving stuff that is not the 'core' business of 
> mmbase outside of mmbase and using things in ways the rest of the world 
> is using them. However I don't know anyting about the current database 
> implementation so for now I'll abstain:
> 
> >Remove jdbc module from HEAD
> >
> >[_] +1 (YEA)
> >[X] +0 (ABSTAIN )
> >[_] -1 (NAY), because :
> >[_] VETO, because: 
> 
> Some questions/remarks on Michiels mail:
> 
> Michiel Meeuwissen wrote:
> > - We can ship a working mmbase with an hsql url.
> 
> I also really like that. But it'll be easier to ship a war using a j2ee 
> datasource won't it?

I doubt it. But if so, please. Perhaps for a war for a site which is
actually to be shipped to a hoster yes, but for the distro itself, I
think not.

> 
> > - You can easily try out another app-server you are not familiar with.
> 
> I don't mind this a lot: If you want to try a new appserver you probably 
> want to learn about it don't you? Learning how to configure its database 
> might be a nice part of the process ;-)

I don't know. For users yes, for developers probably not. E.g. if I want
to test if taglib works on some app-server (perhaps someone reported bug
there), I don't want to learn too much about it; just want to get it
working ASAP.

> > - Running stand-alone remains an option, also for junit tests
> 
> Is this really necessary? Isn't it easier to use a test-container? (I 
> still have to go and learn about the mmbase unittests, sorry)

The mmbase unittests are a bit of a mess, because nobody uses them and
they have never all not failed.

If they can be refactored to use data-sources and not an hsql connection
URL, perhaps that can be done first (by someone why knows how to do
that, so I can simply steal the info then), also for the default build
with hsql. If the default configuration can be changed to use
data-source to hsql (we do support it already IIRC), and that indeed
results in war which is just as easily deployed as the current one, then
I would be a whole lot more eager to give a unconditional +1 on the
proposal 'as is'. But AFAIK that is not possible. But please prove me
wrong...


Michiel

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