On 5/20/21 8:46 PM, Carl Schwan wrote:
Le jeudi, mai 20, 2021 2:18 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development <development@qt-project.org> a écrit :[snip] Lacking some formal voting infrastructure, how do we take this vote? I'd say, KISS: please reply to this email and express your preference.I believe the best course of action would be to wait a bit until KDE moves its freenode presence to libera (should happen soon). And then Qt can move its freenode channels to libera and add Matrix bridging to the new channels with the KDE-Matrix instance. People who prefer IRC will still be able to use IRC, people who would like to use a more modern chat protocol can use Matrix and both will be able to communicate together using the Matrix bridge. Currently, there are already some unofficial matrix channels bridged to the Qt IRC channels (e.g. #_freenode_#qt-labs:kde.org) but making them official, grouping them into a Matrix Space[1] and encouraging people to join them could help to make Qt a friendlier project to join. Cheers, Carl [1]: https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/17/the-matrix-space-beta
Hello, I completely agree with this argument, moving Libera seems to be the first solution to the initial problem, then we could connect those channels with Matrix counterparts on the KDE infra. Why Matrix? KDE is already using it, and I trust they also had long lasting discussions to "what do we use next". If someone don't like it then the person can stay on the IRC channel. After this, time will tell, if we notice an increase of users on the matrix, or IRC side, and we can have another discussion. but at least I feel it's a good plan to follow. Is there any argument against this plan? Bridges will be harmless enough to at least give us the option to try something different, without losing discussions from IRC. @Giuseppe regarding the consensus, should we do a thread for voting the movement to libera only? or you think we could agree differently of doing the move. -- Story time: The PySide situation As you can see here: https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Python#Community the project has many platforms, and some of them are connected, giving me at least the feeling everyone is happy in their system. IRC has some activity, but it's connected with a bridge to Matrix (the default server), and also to Gitter (if you don't know what's about, it's mainly a web-based chat system related to github projects, it has been connected to the old github mirror of the pyside-setup repo). With the configuration: Gitter <-> IRC <-> Matrix most people are happy enough. We complementary had open a Telegram channel, that became the most active platform (citation needed, it's my impression.). We opened a PySide channel on Keybase, but after all the crypto-stuff, it died out. -- -- Dr. Cristián Maureira-Fredes R&D Manager The Qt Company GmbH Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 D-12489 Berlin Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
